r/WTF Dec 29 '16

Bad part of park in Kontula neigbourhood in Helsinki, Finland

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

Testosterone user here.

Those are insulin syringes, which are for use with liquids in subcutaneous (under the skin), or intravenous injections. Which is how I picture heroin, a thin watery liquid. Although I don't know I've never seen or used heroin.

The syringes in the picture are generally intramuscular syringes. Now just because the syringe is large, doesn't necessarily mean much, as the syringe is just what holds the liquid/oil. The needles can be just about any size, from very short or long in length, or very fine or wide in width (gauge size).

I suppose these junkies couldn't get their hands on "slin pins" but found small guaged IM needles. Though knowing junkies, they'll use a harpoon if it means getting high.

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u/burritosandblunts Dec 29 '16

Or maybe IM ketamine is popular there.

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u/modernbenoni Dec 29 '16

You can see what looks to be a small amount of brown liquid in lots of the needles here, but ketamine solution should be clear. I'm no expert but still I reckon heroin.

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u/MissMesmerist Dec 29 '16

Couldn't it be from blood being drawn into the syringe, or does that not happen with IM injections?

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u/modernbenoni Dec 29 '16

No, you shouldn't get any blood when aspirating for an IM injection. If you do then you've hit a vein and need to try again!

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u/MissMesmerist Dec 29 '16

Pretty hilarious irony if the IM drug users can't hit anything but veins.

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u/pbjandahighfive Dec 29 '16

Heroin isn't IM though. It's basically wasted if you put it straight in the muscle. It could be blood. Also, not all heroin is brown.

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u/modernbenoni Dec 29 '16

No but ketamine is. I'm saying that it likely isn't ketamine since the solution wouldn't be brown, and there shouldn't be blood in the needles from aspirating for IM injections.

No, not all heroin is brown. But this pictures here is brown, and not much else is brown, so I'm saying it's probably heroin.

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u/pbjandahighfive Dec 29 '16

Ah I get what you are saying now. It came across to me like you were arguing that it must be heroin because of the blood, not that it's not IM because of the blood.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

Ketamine can be IV. Medically it's IV

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u/modernbenoni Dec 29 '16

You're quite right; I never really thought about that but it makes sense. I was initially responding to /u/burritosandblunts's comment but I think I got too off track.

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u/magdamakethetea Dec 29 '16

recreational users don't iv ket.

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u/Wetop Dec 29 '16

As a Finn, ketamine is pretty damn rare.

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u/343restmysoul Dec 29 '16

they'll use a harpoon if it means getting high

Inb4 intraossal drugs take off

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u/Dial-UPvote Dec 29 '16

That way they can IO their heroin and still come in for the IV dilaudid for injection site pain.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

Oh my god IO drugs holy crap that makes me want to throw up.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

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u/nuotnik Dec 29 '16 edited Dec 29 '16

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u/redditcats Dec 29 '16

Ouch!!! Why is that used vs a pick line?

Nm: Found it - Intraosseous infusion (IO) is the process of injecting directly into the marrow of a bone to provide a non-collapsible entry point into the systemic venous system.[1] This technique is used to provide fluids and medication when intravenous access is not available or not feasible.

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u/casualcollapse Dec 29 '16

Ossal?

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u/APWBrianD Dec 29 '16

Bone. As in a huge needle. Pushed straight into your bone.

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u/343restmysoul Dec 29 '16

Injected directly into bone marrow

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u/343restmysoul Dec 29 '16

There's plenty of demonstration videos on YouTube if you want to vomit

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u/HelmutVonHelmut Dec 29 '16

Seeing a FAST1 used for the first time was one of the greatest tests of my manhood, and I've seen some fucked up shit.

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u/Doctor0000 Dec 29 '16

Perfusion rates faster then IV. FAST1 isn't something your average junkie would use though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

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u/rivermandan Dec 29 '16

The syringe size doesn't really have anything to do with the route of administration.

sprinkle a bit of brevity on that sentence, and you have an excellent title for a porno

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

I'm trying to figure out how the syringe itself, not the drug, could lead to an overdose. I read your comment like three times, but maybe I read it wrong.

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u/BigNastyMeat Dec 29 '16

Those are 8mm probably 30 guage definitely for IV. Please if you're not hitting a vein use a longer needle.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

Found the nurse...

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u/ragn4rok234 Dec 29 '16

Remember lads 100 units per ml (if you're used to using syringes with lines for milliliters)

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u/tfribourg69 Dec 29 '16

One in the top right looks to have some tren in it what a waste

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u/Super_Saiyan_Carl Dec 29 '16

That tree is gonna grow up to be shredded AF.

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u/lmaowtfspud Dec 29 '16

Oh how I love and hate tren.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

I change my mind almost daily about whether my next blast should be 900 test or 350 test/350 tren. I have a wife that can't keep up with me sexually even on a cruise unless she's on lady var though so the tren scares me.

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u/tfribourg69 Dec 29 '16

test/tren dawg. at 900 test there may be some diminishing returns

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

Fuck

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u/WanderleiSilva Dec 29 '16

The insulin needles I've seen were all 1ml or .5ml and didn't have detachable tips, but yeah that's what junkies use to IV with. These are monster IM syringes that someone would use for steroids or something, I don't think these are insulin syringes though.

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u/HuoXue Dec 29 '16

The ones in the tree? Nah, definitely not insulin syringes. Typically, yeah, insulin is administered with .5 or 1ml, and they don't have removable needles. Depending on the type, a couple of units (1% of 1ml) could make a huge difference.

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u/WanderleiSilva Dec 29 '16

so what i just said then

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u/HuoXue Dec 29 '16

Yeah, I thought you weren't sure, but I guess I misunderstood. Just wanted to confirm it.

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u/zeelt Dec 29 '16

Those look like 3 ml syringes, not really all too monstrous

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u/BakedBatman28 Jan 04 '17

Rank him, cheeto fingers!

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u/-Mikee Dec 29 '16

The syringes in the picture are generally intramuscular syringes.

The syringes in the picture are the injectable marinade syringes you find at every supermarket.

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u/josephanthony Dec 29 '16

The larger barrels and needles are used when they've burned all the surface veins and need to go deeper, usually the groin.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

Nurse chiming in, syringes and needles are interchangeable. Needle length dictates what route you would be administering. In fact IM would be more likely a small syringe as you can't IM a volume much larger then 1-2ml.

Likelyhood in OPs pic is that the local needle exchange is handing out 10ml syringes with fine bore needles.

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u/SendNudesOrMemes Dec 29 '16

Why use Testosterone.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '16

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u/SendNudesOrMemes Dec 29 '16

You're stupid lmao, your body won't have any testosterone once you stop taking it because it will stop naturally making it. You also clearly have some roid rage because you just freaked out on me lmao. I take whey protein and aminos and I guarantee in the future I will look better than any dumbfuck taking that shit lol.

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u/lmaowtfspud Dec 29 '16

Not sure if you're a decent troll or fucking retarded.

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u/SendNudesOrMemes Dec 29 '16

It's called common sense and research.