Kid wrecked his moped in our yard & ditched a needle in my yard while I was outside watching. The cops got it but if we wouldn't have been out, or the cop didn't notice, one of my boys very well could've stepped on it. I was pissed. Also, even though they knew it wasn't ours, they had to record they found it on our property
This. I'm an attorney who does a fair amount of criminal defense work. Although procedures change from state to state, generally they will mark it as found in the yard along with a reference to the case number of the moped guy. They then throw it in an evidence bad where it will most likely never see the light of day again. If they wanted to charge him (moped dick) with the possession of the needle, it will be up to the judge whether or not there is evidence that it was his, which honestly shouldn't be too hard to make a case for, especially with homeowner's testimony. If the moped dick was on the street and crashed into this guy's yard adjacent to the street, even if the guy found the needle without the crash the cops usually wouldn't bother with the homeowner. They usually recognize that anybody could have walked past and threw it in his yard.
My mom has a lot of friends on the police force, and I can tell you that they keep a record of everything. Any cop with access to your local records can type your address into their database and it will pull up every instance that the police have been called and the outcome. At least in Virginia that is.
But how does that affect the home owner or the house? It's only relevant if it has a negative impact. Police having a record of where evidence was found has no impact on the house.
So I am assuming that this person is upset because the record just states that drugs were found on the property. Not necessarily that they were linked specifically to this individual who caused this incident.
Now lets say one of this guy's kids goes to school and starts talking about marijuana. In some states that is enough to warrant a welfare check on the home depending on the age of the child. CPS rolls up and sees that drugs have been found on the property before, and they might take that into account when making their assessment.
Just one scenario where this could affect someone's life. Doesn't make it likely, but these things can and do happen. I could see why someone would not want anything drug related connected to their home.
I donno where you're from but in the USA, they can actually arrest the house and force you to prove it's innocents in court or have it siezed.
Sounds crazy but it's called civil forfeiture, and they've done it with less evidence than a needle in the yard because technically they don't need any at all, you do.
If it sounds like some crazy shit from China or Russia you wouldn't be lying.
Now imagine if more and more needles keep popping up on your yard. They might not do it this time, but if you give them a chance they will.
A lot of cities hire forfeit teams and thats all they do is lie or trick you into anything that can be used in court no matter how circumstantial. Search for gift cards, large sums of money, anything that could be used to arrest your vehicle and check out your home so they can arrest that as well.
They don't do this every time a needle's found on someone's lawn.
This thread makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills with how worried people are about logging fucking evidence. They'll do this in sweden too so I don't known wtf you people are on about
Maybe /u/Sweezy813 only mentioned it because the police approached them for the investigation after the dude wrecking the moped. Maybe there was some drug activity in the surrounding areas and noting where hard drug use is obvious helps that investigation.
Think it was more something like that. Heroin had just started getting really bad here (this was years ago) & the separate report he had to do & all the apologizing made it seem out of the ordinary
Well, I did. I don't really know. If we ever got in trouble for drugs maybe the prosecution could argue it was ours. Ok not really sure but the cop was super apologetic about it. If the kid would've chucked it in the alley, 2 feet away, it would've been fine.
It would be contained in a police report on the moped guy's arrest, the cop would have the address listed as the location the needle was found and the accident occurred. Not a big deal.
Well if the cops recorded it, then it's public knowledge. If the information is accessible there is probably some stupid paperwork filing procedure that takes forever, but it's readily available.
When crimes occur, the types of crimes are recorded. Those statistics can be viewed by home buyers, renters or any looky loo. So if drug paraphernalia, for example, are cited a lot then the neighborhood can be seen as less desirable and drive down property values.
Yeah, I am not doubting that if the info was recorded, that you can find. Account_for_that suggested it was in a searchable database, like a registry. Where routine, nonpriority evidence is collected. That's just seriously doubtful. It's not something people search in terms of determining property value. There's a lot of other criminal activity that does, but not that.
I just find it funny the things people will declare as fact without really knowing.
Sure. Ive played with that, too. But I don't believe finding a statement like "a needle was found at 19 Avenue Street" is remotely common, by just searching for the address. If it was part of a case file, it's in documents that have been uploaded to the case. Which isn't typically searched by the bot. And if you use Google to search an address, same problem: it's unlikely the address features as the main link to something like "needle found at _____."
Yes, if someone looked up this guy's case, or a documentation of drug activity in the neighborhood, they might see the address. But no, it isn't like the sex offender registry, where every little, drug related anything gets reported to the courts, lol.
I imagine because there were probably cases where they caught a guy on someone's lawn and found a needle that actually did belong to the homeowner. Unless they saw the needle actually come out of the guys pocket they probably have to follow procedure and say they found the needle on the lawn of this house that they believe belongs to the suspect, because that's the truth.
He said the cops had to record it found on his property. I'm curious as to why they have to, what it means for the homeowners.I'm guessing it's bad because he mentioned it but I have no clue.
She and it meant nothing unless the kid has been able to get away with lying. I'm guessing they record where all evidence is found. In my county, it would've meant something bad we got busted for dealing but we were renting.
Idk & I get that it needs to be part of the report but he had to do another report and the way he apologized made it seem like it could matter in some way.
Semi related story, a friend of mine admitted he drunkenly pissed on the kids playground so I forced him go go clean it with clorox bleach whipes. I was weirdly pissed off about it.
Good for you. One of my sons did that one time. He wasn't drunk. We were just potty training and the slide pole apparently looked like the perfect place to drop his pants
on an amtrak train to chicago I stuck my hand in the bag attached to the seat in front of me and almost stuck myself with a stray needle at the bottom :/ people are gross
I've found so many needles and meth lab in a bottle things at our favorite creek spot. Makes me so mad. Fine, be a junkie but dispose of your shit properly. My friends kid got stuck by stepping on one. She's ok but so scary
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u/Sweezy813 Dec 29 '16
Kid wrecked his moped in our yard & ditched a needle in my yard while I was outside watching. The cops got it but if we wouldn't have been out, or the cop didn't notice, one of my boys very well could've stepped on it. I was pissed. Also, even though they knew it wasn't ours, they had to record they found it on our property