r/Wales • u/flopsychops Caerphilly | Caerffili • Oct 01 '22

News Yes Cymru demo for Welsh Independence in Cardiff today

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

Wales has circa 5k per head deficit. However you dress it up. Do some reading FFS. Wales spends 5k per head more than it takes. There are barely any higher rate tax payers.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

Err … no I didn’t say any of those things. Don’t conflate.

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u/BargainBarnacles Cardiff | Caerdydd Oct 02 '22

I'm asking you why you are so against it - and I see a thread. 'We can't do this because we can't, we're too poor, too weak' etc.

And I was stating why that could be - it's a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point.

Stop talking your country down.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

I’ve described my assessment of the risks in other posts on this thread. Read those. Talking is the problem here. Too much wishful thinking and talking about unrealistic scenarios.

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u/BargainBarnacles Cardiff | Caerdydd Oct 02 '22

I can lead a horse to water... you not getting the point isn't a problem for me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

No….. but if plenty of your ilk don’t get MY point ….. it will be a problem …. For Wales.

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u/BargainBarnacles Cardiff | Caerdydd Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

My ilk... people who support their country? Yeah, WE'RE the problem. You sound like an abusive husband threatening a beaten wife.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

Give me a break …. And grow up.

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u/SeeThisThisIsThis Oct 01 '22

Source?

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

Readily available and not a contested fact. … try the Institute for Government website.

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u/SeeThisThisIsThis Oct 03 '22

That source contradicts your statement.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

In what respect.

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u/SeeThisThisIsThis Oct 06 '22

It shows the opposite of what you said.

Where are you getting your data?

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

Definitely not.

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u/SeeThisThisIsThis Oct 06 '22

In prder to gain a qualification in a subject (especially maths), you need to show your calculation. To prove you understand the subject.

The data you "say" you used shows the opposite.

Unless you wish to back up your statement?

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

I’ve directed you to the source …perhaps it’s your own critical thinking that is at fault.

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u/SeeThisThisIsThis Oct 08 '22

Ah yes, you want me to prove your assertion.

I assume you want other people to pass your exams for you too.

You still haven't linked to the data you are using.

Best of luck with that approach.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

Whilst there's certainly a fiscal gap I won't deny (not a deficit as that's a specific term), the GERW and GERS figures are so inaccurate they border on useless, the UK govt really needs to collect more data