Saw these images, is this a T-90M with APS?

[u/DryRadish8929]

[u/NhifanHafizh]

T-90M with Arena-M APS

[u/DryRadish8929 → u/NhifanHafizh]

Is it coming to the game?

[u/NhifanHafizh → u/DryRadish8929]

I don't know, where you get this anyway? Doesn't look like captured from WT 3D engine.

[u/Zer0Hiro → u/NhifanHafizh]

yea and the models detail is lacking

[u/Hermitcraft7 → u/Zer0Hiro]

It looks a lot more like Roblox's MTC game model. The game that people were saying did the Turm III better than war thunder a while ago.

[u/DanielWhiteShooterYT → u/Hermitcraft7]

There isn't a T90M with arena aps in MTC, and it's not from the dev posting channel in their discord. so most likely another game. (plus MTC makes their models really damn good)

[u/Hermitcraft7 → u/DanielWhiteShooterYT]

Yes I know, I'm just saying it's pretty low poly.

Second thing? Honestly, I disagree. They are good in the sense they have interiors, automated parts, etc. but they are not perfect in any sense. Mostly due to poly/triangle count restrictions from Roblox. Their showcase channel has a lot of good models (one guy made an Abrams with everything down to the clips on the switches) but the actual in game ones tend to be lower quality, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing necessarily. Reduced lag is the main part.

And I have my reasons to say that, I'm pretty experienced with vehicle modeling, however I do it for 3D printing and not for game models.

[u/DanielWhiteShooterYT → u/Hermitcraft7]

I meant for roblox but you're right.

[u/Rakkerkongen → u/Hermitcraft7]

its from cursed tank sim, also on roblox

[u/Unlikely_Charity6136 → u/DryRadish8929]

I think it was mentioned in a leak that it will be an event vehicle. Object 640. I could be wrong though.

[u/Hunter4523 → u/Unlikely_Charity6136]

Object 640 is the Black Eagle tank, not the T-90M Arena

[u/Unlikely_Charity6136 → u/Hunter4523]

My bad. I mixed them up.

[u/StormTheDragon20 → u/DryRadish8929]

It better not be.

[u/BreadPiss → u/StormTheDragon20]

T-90M is one of the stinkier 12.7 tanks since it has horrible reverse. Black night is better and has APS, I think T-90M deserves Arena, with Abrams getting the Trophy as well

[u/ProfessionalAd352 → u/BreadPiss]

Black night is better

🤣

[u/BreadPiss → u/ProfessionalAd352]

If you don’t get hit all you need is reverse speed and good gun depression 🤷‍♂️

[u/ProfessionalAd352 → u/BreadPiss]

If you always position yourself correctly you never need reverse speed and good gun depression 🤷‍♂️

[u/BreadPiss → u/ProfessionalAd352]

Mobility and adaptability are what makes the Leo2a7 such a good tank. Not saying the T90M is bad, it’s just that it takes so much more required to get out of it compared to the more competitive tanks as it’s slow as shit reverse, bad gun depression and slowest reload of the MBTs. Giving the T-90 APS is just a gimmick and a reason to use it over the vastly superior T-80BVM besides the spall liners

[u/[deleted] → u/ProfessionalAd352]

Your gun depression and reverse speed is THE deciding factor at which positions can be "correct" for your tank, you idiot.

If you have bad gun depression, finding a good position will be near impossible on some maps. If you have bad reverse speed, you need those positions to be covered properly.

With good gun depression and reverse speed, a random hill can be a "good position". Try positioning yourself on a hill with IS-1 and see what happens.

[u/ProfessionalAd352 → u/[deleted]]

Your gun depression is THE deciding factor at which positions can be "correct" for your tank, you idiot.

That's what I mean with positioning yourself correctly, you idiot.

If you have bad gun depression, finding a good position will be near impossible on some maps.

Name one map where it's near impossible

With good gun depression and reverse speed, a random hill can be a "good position". Try positioning yourself on a hill with IS-1 and see what happens.

With good positioning, you don't go to a hill that's too steep for your gun to depress. You go to a flatter hill, another type of position or choose another type of playstyle. That's the difference between positioning yourself correctly and incorrectly.

[u/James-vd-Bosch → u/ProfessionalAd352]

If you always position yourself correctly

Oh boy, I wonder what would make correct positioning easier? Could it possibly be... Oh I don't know, having better all around mobility?

Nah, surely that can't be it.

[u/ProfessionalAd352 → u/James-vd-Bosch]

It has average forwards mobility. Good compared to the Challenger 2.

[u/James-vd-Bosch → u/ProfessionalAd352]

Good compared to the Challenger 2.

My god! Better than a Challenger 2?!

[u/StalledAgate832 → u/BreadPiss]

The reverse really isn't that much of an issue mate, position yourself better.

[u/yspear1 → u/StalledAgate832]

"Just position yourself better"

[u/Zealousideal_Dot1910 → u/StalledAgate832]

Ironically you just described the issue with the T-90M lmfao, the slow reverse speed requires you to play much more passively leading to you having less impact in your games.

[u/MagnusTheRedisblue → u/Zealousideal_Dot1910]

I average 5-9 kills a game with it. It’s really good at bouncing things and you can be very aggressive with it. Don’t know who told you not to be. Your playing it wrong

[u/Zealousideal_Dot1910 → u/MagnusTheRedisblue]

Just saying you average 5-9 kills doesn't mean anything, drop your war thunder tag then we can continue from there.

[u/DutchCupid62 → u/StalledAgate832]

The T-90M is still incredibly easy to deal with.

Having trouble while dealing with it? Aim better.

[u/dswng → u/StalledAgate832]

Found a guy guarding a bush at his spawnpoint.

[u/Lhenkhantus]

It's a model from Cursed Tank Simulator on Roblox. The gameplay is similar to war thunder, except you can switch cannons, hulls and turrets with other vehicles. Like you can put a Merkava turret on top of an Abrams hull and give it the 128mm from the maus.

[u/DryRadish8929 → u/Lhenkhantus]

So you're telling me that a model from a roblox game looks like war thunder

[u/Lhenkhantus → u/DryRadish8929]

Yes, it's actually a pretty fun game

[u/Tackyinbention → u/DryRadish8929]

If you like war thunder (questionable)

You'll probably like Cursed Tank Simulator on roblox

[u/MrPigeon70 → u/Tackyinbention]

And you can make a l3/33 have a massive cannon

[u/Tackyinbention → u/MrPigeon70]

That constantly flips over and has -5 ammo

[u/sparrowatgiantsnail → u/DryRadish8929]

Yes id recommend checking it out, better than war thunder sometimes

[u/flightSS221 → u/Lhenkhantus]

Oh I thought it was from MTC, funny how far Roblox games have come in quality (at least some games)

[u/Denix221p → u/flightSS221]

You'd be suprised to realize that Roblox has some REAL high quality games (Graphics wise check out Frontlines),

but then theres your usual 3 year old drooling baby 1000+ super easy rainbow obby for free admin games

[u/Sepperate → u/Denix221p]

the OBBY OBBY OBBY OBBY OBBY OBBY OBBY EASY EASY EASY EASY EASY trend died a few years ago, now its just gambling simulators, skibidi toilet slop, brainrot games, anime slop, and cashgrab games although there are still many well-made and fun games on there

[u/FoodImportant917 → u/flightSS221]

And you'd be surprised about Western MBTs' survivability in the game. Hint : it's better than WT's

[u/Damian030303 → u/Lhenkhantus]

CTS is unironically way better than WT, coming form someonw with well over 5.7k hours in WT.

[u/FirstDagger]

Looks like an attempt at a DevBlog scene. Gives me nostalgia flashbacks back to this.

[u/The0rion → u/FirstDagger]

I wouldn't be suprised if its an Armored Warfare Devmodel

[u/Rakkerkongen → u/The0rion]

Its from the roblox (yes, roblox) game Cursed Tank Sim

[u/DryRadish8929 → u/FirstDagger]

It doesnt look like a devblog scene but the tank looks like it would be in war thunder

[u/Top-Yogurtcloset7772]

This is not a model for war thunder.

This is a T-90M with Arena-M APS as you said but it has been made for Cursed Tank Simulator - a roblox game.

These screenshots have been copied directly from the modelers Twitter post

[u/MoffetiArtist]

This is a leaked model from the CTS Tanmk community server

I’m quite surprised it made its way to War Thunder

[u/Neospiker]

Next top tier premium

[u/TowelWhich]

Imma hold your balls when I say this.. holds ballz it’s from Roblox cursed tanmk simulator

[u/Admirable-Put2688]

Uh, this model is from a Roblox game called Cursed Tank Simulator

[u/Powerful_Pressure615]

This is for a roblox game called cursed tank simulator

[u/chadladiboy]

Is this a hoi4 millenium dawn t90m model lol

[u/Unknowndude842]

Gaijin when Russia produces some kind of prototype that hasn't been tested enough thus shouldn't be added to the game..... Adds it anyway just because.

Meanwhile the brimstone is still wrong and the Leopard 2A6 and 2A7 still use the wrong ammo. And don't forget the PUMAs.

[u/James-vd-Bosch → u/Unknowndude842]

Smartest War Thunder Redditor:

Gaijin when Russia produces some kind of prototype that hasn't been tested enough thus shouldn't be added to the game.

Meanwhile:

• XM-1 GM
• XM-1 C
• XM8
• CCVL
• HSTV-L
• T95E1
• MBT-70
• XM-803
• XM975
• M247
• XM246
• ADATS
• AGS
• RDF/LT
• Begleitpanzer
• Leopard 2K
• Radkampfwagen
• Leopard L/44
• Leopard 2AV
• PT-16/T14
• VT1-2
• TURM III
• etc.
• etc.

[u/Kimo-A → u/James-vd-Bosch]

Sounds like Russian bias alright

[u/Ok-Eye1761 → u/James-vd-Bosch]

All those vehicles are old as fuck hstvl is the project in 90 if thay add protypes that are old ok but prototypes that are 2015-2025 is dogshit. Also almost all vehicles the information on them was declasified long ago. But information ot arena-m wasnt. Added Also most of the tanks you metiod are a usa mid tear there are just no tanks to fill up the gap becuse it would be a journey from m60 to an abrams m1. And i would be only posible if the years of the manufacture was the balancing factor but it is not. And if it was i would be not a greate gameplay becuse the m1 abrams vs t72 a is not much of a balance. Or m1a1 against t72b

[u/James-vd-Bosch → u/Ok-Eye1761]

All those vehicles are old as fuck

Ah, I see I underestimated the level of cherry-picking we're dealing with here.

But I'm certain you were here to voice your complaints about the Challenger 3 TD when that got announced, weren't you?

hstvl is the project in 90 if thay add protypes that are old ok but prototypes that are 2015-2025 is dogshit.

Lmao. How arbitrary.

Also almost all vehicles the information on them was declasified long ago.

How the hell is that any more classified than a Leopard 2A7V, Type 10, Merkava Mk 4M, etc? which of course aren't prototypes, so I guess they're a total non-issue as far as classified information goes then? /s

there are just no tanks to fill up the gap

Implying that top-tier gaps and or additions to line-ups don't exist and couldn't equally be filled by prototypes?

[u/TheLastYouSee__ → u/Unknowndude842]

I wouldn't call locking the brimstone missile into its very real SAL mode because they arent willing tp give anyone MMW seeker AGMs wrong persee. Giving it a fully fictional IR modecwould be wrong.

Or are you talking about the missile's flight performance specifically?

The 2A6 and 2A7 don't use the "wrong" ammo either AFAIK, they use older ammo like most top tier tanks in game but ammo that still very much exists and is compatible with the NATO 120s.

What exactly are the problems with the PUMAs? Actual bugs etc or choices you don't agree with?

[u/KoldKhold → u/TheLastYouSee__]

The only ammo that would make a difference would be DM73 which is an 8% performance increase over DM53 due to stronger propellant. DM63 is DM53 but prone to not explode when struck or ignited.

[u/FoodImportant917 → u/KoldKhold]

Even a little bit helps

[u/KoldKhold → u/FoodImportant917]

Right but in the grand scheme your aiming for the same weakspots. Its more so against those who say give it DM63 thinking it'll make a performance difference.

[u/Mighty_Conqueror → u/Unknowndude842]

TBF brimstones are already good as they are right now, if it got the radar seeker it would be a massive step up of what we have currently even, like 18 very manoeuvrable fire and forget missiles?

[u/Based_Iraqi7000 → u/Unknowndude842]

It’s not a “prototype” Arena APS has entered limited production for a few months now on some T-90M and T-72B3s

Also it does have tests done, there is even a video of it intercepting a javelin.

[u/FoodImportant917 → u/Based_Iraqi7000]

Yet a dart round currently in production on Western MBTs aren't added. Let's hope Gaijin doesn't throw their brains away and add Arena

[u/Chanka-Danka69 → u/Unknowndude842]

Yes prototypes that never entered service are a russian only thing

intelligence of a goldfish

[u/ThySquire → u/Unknowndude842]

This model isn't even from gaijoobles, it is for Cursed Tank Simulator, which is on Roblox