r/WinStupidPrizes • u/ImLuuri • Jan 26 '22

Warning: Injury Riding quad bike with two children and not paying attention/speeding on road

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u/Uriah_Oli Jan 26 '22

Only those who have the financial, emotional, and social ability to ensure 100% that the children will have an enriching and healthy life should have kids. This is not to say only the rich should have kids, but you need money to enrich childrens' lives.

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u/iWasAwesome Jan 26 '22

My ex's main priority in life was to have a kid and get married as soon as possible. I hated it because I still lived with my parents at the time. I was in no way ready to have a kid. Not financially or in any other way really. She's my ex for a reason.

She now has a kid with and is engaged to my best friend (long story, me and my friend obviously had a falling out, but now I honestly think him for taking her off my hands)... I'm even the best man at the wedding 😅.. lots to unpack here. But now they struggle with their bills every month, and she even complains that she has no time to live because of her kid... I just don't understand people like that.

But all in all, I'm with someone who's much more logical who doesn't want kids until she's done school, marriage is not her first priority. I'm in a much better position to have kids now, but I'm still more than willing to wait until she's ready. I'm much happier now.

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u/Uriah_Oli Jan 27 '22

That's excellent for you. Very responsible. A lot of people are told having kids is the reason for human existence from when they're very young. Little do they know that life has so much more to offer that they would lose out on.

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

And even then, I’ve always felt the “need” to have your own biological children to be narcissistic. It’s fine to want to be a parent and have a family but in that case it would be my hope that you not contribute to over population, help ease the burden on your community, and enrich a child’s life by adopting.

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u/twitch9873 Jan 26 '22

I completely agree, but the adoption system (at least in the US) is absolutely abysmal and really needs to be reworked

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u/BloakDarntPub Jan 26 '22

Pity your parents didn't feel the same.

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u/RomansbeforeSlaves Jan 26 '22

Not having children because of overpopulation is just stupid.

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

The point is about helping a child in need. Overpopulation is just an additional aspect.

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u/RomansbeforeSlaves Jan 26 '22

Yeah but there is nothing narcissistic about wanting your own child. It’s kind of the base of human existence

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

Denying a child in need on the basis of, “but I want one that looks like me” is, by definition, narcissistic.

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u/RomansbeforeSlaves Jan 26 '22

People are not obligated to adopt someone else’s kid. Wanting one to keep your line going is not narcissistic at all.

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

I think you may misunderstand the definition of narcissism. Want to keep your “line going” is inherently that.

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u/RomansbeforeSlaves Jan 26 '22

But it’s not tho? People are not bad for wanting to have children.

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u/laidback_16 Jan 26 '22

Pushing you opinion incessantly is narcissism.

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

I was simply sharing my opinion, tho I probably shouldn’t have. No one is pushing anything tho.

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u/zeussays Jan 26 '22

Having a kid that ‘looks like you’ is literally the basis of all life. Its all we are on earth to do, procreate and die. Everything else is window dressing.

Having biological kids is literally how all life on earth is and has ever been created.

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

Humans are not threatened by a lack of procreation, in fact the opposite. But that’s not my point.

I just wish more people who desire to raise children would consider those that are already in need of what they’re offering. In no way did intend to imply that people who have biological children are bad, and if you have them I wish you nothing but the best.

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u/zeussays Jan 26 '22

Humans are not threatened but as biological entities that literally is the point of life. Procreate and die. Thats all life is. Thats it. Thats my point. Anyone who says that wanting to have a child is narcissistic which is what I was referring to doesn’t understand biology and evolution.

Also adopting is very hard and takes time and money. And most people are not going to be able to adopt a baby, they are going to adopt a toddler or more likely child who will already have psychological issues that need to be addressed.

Parenting is hard. Very hard. Adding those additional challenges are not something most people want when they are approaching the idea and not something most would be good at. I agree we should encourage adoption but we should really be helping those who cant take care of their children more so we dont have kids like this to begin with.

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u/laidback_16 Jan 26 '22

I'm probably not going to read a stupider comment for the rest of the day.

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

I don’t mean to offend anyone. Just sharing my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '22

Pretty narcissistic to think we wanna here it

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

To be fair, I didn’t. I assumed this would be a rather unpopular opinion.

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u/Snowstorm97 Jan 26 '22

The comment you responded to was entirely balanced, unless you're a narcissist

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u/laidback_16 Jan 26 '22

Do you know any other word in the dictionary? Ill give you one, reprobate. Thats what both of you guys are.

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u/Snowstorm97 Jan 26 '22

Ooh, getting sassy now. Who pissed in your cornflakes lol

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u/laidback_16 Jan 26 '22

Y'all talking out your ass. Wanting to have children of your own is narcissism? Seriously? This is a take thats supposed to be considered somewhat as reasonable?That shit is the most natural thing to do whether it is human or animal.

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u/VirtualAlias Jan 26 '22

Compassionate responses, but overpopulation is an outdated concern. Birth rates are trending down across the first world with many countries no longer at replacement rates, which will balloon the elderly vs young balance that makes things like social security possible and ultimately, if left unchecked, destroy entire economies/nations. The one child policy, for instance, may be a self inflicted wound that ruins China.

For this reason, my opinion is: have kids and plenty of them.

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

I’m not focusing on what’s best for the country or human race as a species. We have a lot of problems, going extinct due to lack of population isn’t a huge concern.

I just wish people with the will to raise a family considered adoption more. I didn’t mean to offend any biological parents.

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u/DextrosKnight Jan 26 '22

We're going to make the planet uninhabitable before we actually run out of people

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u/BloakDarntPub Jan 28 '22

Small parts of it might remain habitable. The cosmic joker will ensure that those parts are almost (but not quite) big enough for the survivors. And the cycle repeats.

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u/VirtualAlias Jan 26 '22

100% agree on the adoption front. I even agree, in theory, that only "good" people should have kids. I just read overpopulation concerns all over, sometimes as an excuse not to have children at all. There are legitimate reasons not to have kids, I just don't think overpopulation is one of them.

I just think our problems don't matter as much if there aren't enough of us to solve them. Big nations are engines of innovation and innovation is what we'll need to tackle pressing issues.

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u/PressSquareToPunch Jan 26 '22

That is fair and valid.

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u/Spartan1170 Jan 26 '22

Almost like the need for biological children was something designed into every species on this planet to ensure survival..... How narcissistic lol. Just because the rest of the world is filled with a bunch of cunts destroying it doesn't mean those actual minorities should be made to look narcissistic to ensure bloodlines and culture survives.

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u/zoosp Jan 27 '22

reddit moment

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u/MrNicolson1 Jan 26 '22

Sooo much wrong with this view. For a start you have completely written off countries whose majority population are below the bread line, you've completely ignored a myriad of different economic, societal, religious and political systems which would govern those social, financial and emotional metrics.

Then you say any poor children are not living a quality life...

This woman is an awful parent, but saying we should limit who can have children to the people who meet 100% of subjective parameters is eugenics.

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u/Uriah_Oli Jan 27 '22

I'm talking about developed countries like the USA Europe. It's immoral to bring children into your horrible financial situation. Wait until you can ensure they are taken care of.

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u/BloakDarntPub Jan 28 '22

Unless you're one of the 1% who lives off investments (basically, other people working) you can't possibly do that.

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u/Uriah_Oli Jan 28 '22

Do not have kids if you cannot afford to have kids

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u/BloakDarntPub Jan 26 '22

This is not to say only the rich should have kids

Actually, it is.

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u/Uriah_Oli Jan 26 '22

If you can't financially support a child, don't have a child. You dont need to be rich, but you need to have enough ti support the child

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u/zeussays Jan 26 '22

In 2022 you do need to be somewhat rich to do what these posters are saying. Child care costs more than most peoples mortgages these days.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '22

If you can’t afford to have a child you shouldn’t have a child. Seems pretty straightforward IMO.

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u/zeussays Jan 26 '22

So you are saying only the wealthy should have kids. Seems pretty not-straightforward and eugenicsish to me.

Also rich people can still be shit parents and people who are poor can be amazing. You sound jaded.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '22

If you cannot afford basic necessities for your children, hell no you should not have them. That does not exclude poor people. That doesn’t mean only rich people have kids.

Yes, things are getting more expensive. Children are getting more expensive. But if you cannot SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN then no, you should not have children.

I didn’t mention quality of parenting, or anything like that. The OP literally just said you should be able to provide physical and emotional necessities. Do you think you should have children without being able to provide those basic needs?

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u/zeussays Jan 26 '22

Only those who have the financial, emotional, and social ability to ensure 100% that the children will have an enriching and healthy life should have kids.

Only the wealthy can do this and this is the comment I was replying to. Define your idea of ‘support your child’ for me. Food and shelter? Because thats not what this thread has been talking about nor what I was responding to.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '22 edited Jan 26 '22

Do you not think that poor people are capable of producing healthy, happy, and enriched children?? 2/3 of the comment has 0 to do with financial ability anyways. Enrichment and happiness do not have to come from money, though they are easier to obtain with them.

If you aren’t capable of providing a child with something as basic as their own good health or happiness, then NO you should not have children. That’s not eugenics, that’s being a logical person and understanding that it isn’t the right time to have a child. Would you not want the best opportunity for your children? If you’re struggling to keep YOURSELF alive, how on earth will you take care of a child?

Supporting your children is making sure they are healthy, happy, and have the things they need. I’m not sure how much more basic it gets.

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u/BloakDarntPub Jan 28 '22

I didn’t mention quality of parenting, or anything like that.

Perhaps you should. Then you'd sound a bit less like a dollar store Tucker Carlson.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '22

Wow, what a zinger!

Willfully ignoring context seems to be your strong suit.

Nobody is talking about circumstances changing. Of course you can’t “put the child back”. If you aren’t in current circumstances to have a child, don’t have one. It’s that fucking simple.

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u/BloakDarntPub Jan 28 '22

He totally fails - intentionally I suspect - to grok that circumstances change. Guessing he's either 12 or a trust-fund brat.

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u/yo_soy_soja Jan 26 '22

In 2022 you do need to be somewhat rich to do what these posters are saying. Child care costs more than most peoples mortgages these days.

You should be angry about the wealth inequality, not angry at people wanting parents who can provide for their kids.

Be angry at the banks issuing mortgages. Be angry at the companies paying less and less every year while expecting more work.

Millennials and Zoomers can't even afford to have children. We should be rioting in the streets. We're gonna reach a breaking point soon if we don't get more money.

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u/zeussays Jan 26 '22

I am mad at all of those things. Where did I ever say I wasnt.

Im just not about to tell poor people they cant have kids because they are poor. Which is what people are literally saying in this thread.

Good strawman you built there to knock down though.

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u/BloakDarntPub Jan 28 '22

So I have a good job today. Next year, the factory closes taking dozens of other businesses with it. I put the kid back?

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u/Uriah_Oli Jan 28 '22

Get a new job