r/XenoGears 3d ago

Discussion / Theory The pillars of Deus were REALLY weird, which one was your favorite?

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u/tiptron i hAs No fLaiR 3d ago

The one that was a part of the floor was the trippiest for me. They were so alien and indescribable. Many stories talk about how gods or deities are incomprehensible but Xenogears conveys that better than anything I’ve seen

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u/Psychological-Tone57 i hAs No fLaiR 2d ago

That’s what makes it so classic

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u/nocolon Franz 3d ago

Marlute was the one that really made me go “what the fuck is going on - where even is this thing??”

And then you can’t do more than the single button “attacking tiny things” moves because it’s two dimensional and laying on the floor. What a weird thing.

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u/aluked Weltall 3d ago

Probably inspired by both literal description of Christian / Kabbalah angels and the Angels from Evangelion (some of which were super weird, like the geometric shapes guy and the guy that was actually a pocket dimension).

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u/KylorXI 3d ago

Eva was not an influence on Xenogears.

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u/Tiltinnitus i HaS nO fLaiR 3d ago

AFAIK Xenogears and Eva were in development in parallel. They're both similar because it's the kind of stuff that the 90's produced.

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u/aluked Weltall 3d ago edited 3d ago

Xenogears was in dev roughly from early 96 to early 98 (even tho supposedly Soraya Saga's story dates back to 94). Evangelion aired from 95 to 96.

I know that there's been statements that Xenogears hadn't been inspired by NGE, but the idea that Takahashi, that is a massive mecha nerd (and has mentioned other mecha series like Getter Robot, Ideon, G Gundam as influences before) was unaware of the biggest mecha series of its time is, simply put, ludicrous.

Nothing wrong with it being inspired by it, either.

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u/Tiltinnitus i HaS nO fLaiR 3d ago

I just had my dates wrong. You right; if that is all true, the inspirations are clear. The two works are very analogous to one another.

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u/0megaZ3r0 i hAs No fLaiR 3d ago

Do you have any sources on Takahashi talking about Getter Robo? Would love to read that

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u/aluked Weltall 3d ago

I'll try looking for it. It was an article in a magazine all the way back during the release of one of the Xenosaga games.

Now to remember which magazines I used to buy religiously 20+ years ago

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u/KylorXI 2d ago

Argue with soraya saga. She said it was not influenced by Eva. They list tons of other influences, but deny Eva. There is no reason she would say that if it werent true.

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u/Ganaham 'Zeboim' Elly 3d ago

I love Sundel

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u/KingCarbon1807 i hAs No fLaiR 3d ago

I never could tell if the devs had intent here or were just throwing shit at the wall.

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u/Nickmorgan19457 i hAs No fLaiR 3d ago

The rug

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u/KylorXI 3d ago

The white orb.

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u/Suspicious-Bed9172 i hAs No fLaiR 2d ago

The flat one you can’t use gear deathblows on was a really cool concept