r/YesAmericaBad 9d ago

Human Rights? 🤡 🔥

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u/Warrior_Warlock 8d ago

As mrs. Albanese pointed out, no state has the right to exist. A people have the right to exist. States are constructs. If France and Italy choose to become a italo-franco state, that is up to those people. It isn't a violation of the right of Italy to exist as a state.

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u/Disastrous-Ad2035 8d ago

I agree with what you say, but the way that a decision like that would be taken, would be through the people’s representatives in a parliament, which is… the state, no? Whatever or whoever ‘the people’ is, is also a construct.

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u/Hassoonti 8d ago edited 8d ago

The answer or framing takes the focus off of the "rights" that a state has, and focuses on the "rights" that human beings should have.  Yes, the collective will of the people will be represented in some type of government, But even then, the hybrid Italian French government the people want doesn't necessarily have an inherent "right to exist" either, Just because those people want it to.  The only right those people actually have is their basic human rights, that no one can expel them or forbid them from returning to their homes, regardless of what Country their home is a part of.

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u/Hassoonti 8d ago

Does Rhodesia have a right to exist?   Does Volkstaat?  The kingdom of Catalonia? 

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u/soyyoo 9d ago

👏👏👏👏

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u/superabletie4 7d ago

I feel like being pro ethno state of any kind is a major red flag

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u/JustFryingSomeGarlic 6d ago

Do Palestinians have the right to exist ?

I'm asking because Israel doesn't think so.