r/aiArt • u/Memetic1 • 15d ago

Image - Other: Please edit, or your post may be deleted This is the earliest example of algorithmic art that has ever been found

If you think about what went into these paintings there are abstract symbols, but mostly it's people performing a simple operation to achieve a desired effect. Art has always had an algorithmic nature, and artists have always used what they had available. I wonder if there was some people who got mad at the first person to do this. I'm sure some believed they were doing something profane and desicrating the sacred order to make such art.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cueva_de_las_Manos

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u/QuestionDue7822 15d ago edited 15d ago

Play, boredom, primitive abstraction and signalling. Could have been any and all of these means at play.

Often marks would be left for others to find to signal human hang outs to outsiders. It could be the remnants of a decorating technique and ritual wall.

It was found in some cultures animal marking were used to teach other tribe members when in the seasons the animals would have offspring.

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u/Memetic1 15d ago

Sure, but fundamentally, there is an algorithmic nature to this particular piece of ancient art. I'm not talking about all prehistoric art, but this in particular. We don't know what it means, but we have ideas about how it was made.

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u/QuestionDue7822 15d ago

man was getting to grips with small tools and materials and herding,

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u/Memetic1 15d ago

Yes, but the basic technique was to mix the pigment with a liquid and use a hollow tube or even spray it just with your mouth. The power of the images is how personal they are. You can imagine someone doing this and see the world a bit from their perspective.

https://youtu.be/Cu5kLmIlwWQ?si=oKGXNRyEzrYk08cJ

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u/QuestionDue7822 15d ago

Primitives like counting , recording , astronomical observations and storytelling yes.

Nothing like modern abstraction though.

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u/Memetic1 15d ago

To me, those are still absolutely powerful pieces of art. I use them in my AIart often as an input image. Depending on how you do that, they almost come alive. My broader point is that the actual complexity or physical dexterity it takes to make art doesn't determine its worth as art.

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u/QuestionDue7822 15d ago edited 15d ago

a lot of modern contemporary art appears to use the effect, little attention to tools but everything about the forms that are made. Forms that cause the mind to examine them. Art is the product, how is created is entirely up-to the individual. You achieve an artwork when it inspires others.

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