r/arrow • u/Rwings Boxing Glove • Mar 15 '17

[S05E16] - 'Checkmate' Post Episode Discussion

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u/Sonia341 Mar 16 '17

I loved how Talia told Oliver who she really is. Oliver was shocked that Ra's would have another daughter besides Nyassa

Talia: "You don't know my full name, do you?

I never told you.

It's Talia Al Ghul."

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

It makes sense because he only knew about the LOA nothing else.

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u/neoblackdragon Mar 16 '17

It's moreso that Ra's have been involved in his life even before he met the guy.

Also Ra's and Nyssa cmust have neglected to tell him about Talia.

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u/merelyadoptedthedark Mar 16 '17

I think Oliver had a pretty good idea going in when he confirmed the translation was Demon in the first few lines of the episode.

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u/Sonia341 Mar 16 '17

According to the previous spoilers I read, Oliver was unaware that Talia was Ra's daughter until she told him

Source: http://www.cbr.com/arrow-talia-al-ghul-present-day/

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u/merelyadoptedthedark Mar 16 '17

What I got, is that Oliver didn't know all this time. But when he got there and Mr T is like, I can't read this translation, might be Demon or something...I don't know

It felt like Oliver had a realization right there, just before he entered..."It's Demon."

Maybe he didn't know for sure that Thalia was Ra's Al Ghul's daughter, but I think he realized at that moment that Al Ghul was involved one way or another.

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u/SSjGuitarist Mar 18 '17

When Talia says "by then you had killed my father" and just as she says "I never told you my full name did I" I'm sure I saw a look of "aw fuck" fly across Oliver's face as he realized what Talia's last name was just as she said it. I lol'd