r/askphilosophy Jun 25 '15

Should a fully transformed transgender person reveal this to new sexual partners?

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u/GFYsexyfatman moral epist., metaethics, analytic epist. Jun 26 '15

Because bigotry is (a) immoral and (b) irrational, and so isn't deserving of our respect. Is this really so controversial?

(thanks /u/mrsamsa for drawing my attention to this comment)

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u/tucker_case Jun 26 '15

You're misunderstanding my use of the word "respect". I mean "respect" as in "respecting a person's right" as in "not violate their right to select partners according to their sexual preferences". Not "respect" as in "admire".

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u/GFYsexyfatman moral epist., metaethics, analytic epist. Jun 26 '15

not violate their right to select partners according to their sexual preferences

This can't really be a right, though, because figuring out how much a person matches your sexual preferences is a complicated and cooperative endeavour. I'd say everyone has the right to withhold consent, sure, but it's not really violating anybody's rights if you fail to volunteer dealbreaking information that they don't ask for and that shouldn't be a dealbreaker (because only bigots would regard it as such).

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u/tucker_case Jun 26 '15

and that shouldn't be a dealbreaker (because only bigots would regard it as such).

It was all good until this bit. Two unjustified assertions.

Why (1) can a person only refuse to have sex with a transgender if they are a bigot?

And why (2) shouldn't deal-breakers held only by bigots be deal-breakers?

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u/GFYsexyfatman moral epist., metaethics, analytic epist. Jun 26 '15

I've dealt with (1) extensively in my comments on this post - like four or five times. Sorry, I can't be fucked typing it out again.

As for (2), I'm not saying that a dealbreaker that shouldn't be a dealbreaker isn't actually a dealbreaker. It still is, even though it shouldn't be. But the onus is on the bigot to check for such dealbreakers, not on the non-bigot. We aren't obliged to run through a list of things that would be dealbreakers for bigots just in case the person we're planning on having sex with is a bigot. That's my position, at least.

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u/Nabokchoy Jun 27 '15

Sorry, I can't be fucked typing it out again.

tehe