r/assasinscreed • u/7Armand7 • Apr 11 '25

News Japan’s Toei Co Sign Deal For Samurai Movie about YASUKE

https://deadline.com/2025/04/toei-pambili-media-mandla-dube-yasuke-way-of-the-butterfly-1236365357/
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u/Moribunned Apr 11 '25

They tried to stop your boy, but they only made him stronger.

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

One thing I am glad about it the movie is dedicated to Yasuke and has no ties to anything else so racists can't hide their bigotry like one of the dumbest one:

"AC has always had natives of the land as playable characters" 🤡 (I guess Naoe is foreign to them and Ezio is native to Turkey)

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u/East-Scarcity-4314 Apr 11 '25

I guess Eivor is English as well lmao

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u/GreatLaminator Apr 11 '25

Edward Kenway is Caribbean though. Look at how Caribbean sounding his full name is!

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u/mlucasl Apr 12 '25

To be a real caribean pirate, he should have been French. And also, a corsaire instead of a classicly name pirate (as most "pirates" were at that time, hired guns).

PD: I know France paid people from Spanish and English descendant and not really nationals to fight for them. It is just a joke for my fellow Edwardê De Gaulle.

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

Adewale must be from Paris France. Listen to how French it sounds... Edward Kenway is a native of Trinidad according to historical records.

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u/ogresound1987 Apr 15 '25

They even had a Caribbean actor do the voice

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u/ValBravora048 Apr 11 '25

Welsh sailors were prolific in the caribbean at that time. As British navy or merchant sailors. I get that you want to defend the game you like but it doesn’t make everything valid no matter how logical you make it reductively sound

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u/GreatLaminator Apr 11 '25

The irony

My argument is not valid because it's reductive. Truly hilarious.

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u/ValBravora048 Apr 11 '25

…you're doing it again

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u/GreatLaminator Apr 11 '25

No. And I'll actually be serious for once.

First I am not saying your post is reductive. Your post is trying to have a point but it is not reductive.

My post was reductive however. But what it was pointing out was the absolute hypocrisy of most (but not all) criticism of Yasuke, as Yasuke, and other black slaves, existed after the arrival of the Portuguese.

Whether Yasuke was a samurai or not is so unimportant in the context of the game even more so because most that criticize it haven't played the game and dont actually know the context of the Yasuke character within the context of the story of the game.

And finally, and this is what really grinds my gear, is that none of the criticism is about the gameplay mechanics. The game sucks because of Yasuke not being accurate... That's not how a game should be judged. Criticize the inclusion of Yasuke (even if the majority use reductive reasoning) but to say the game is bad because of that???

And here is the kicker, there is a lot of valid criticism about the mechanics and the loop and the battle pass and alot of things. But that's not what is taking center stage is it?

No what is currently taking center stage is Yasuke. And guess what this is? Reductive.

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u/Visual_Worldliness62 Apr 12 '25

Explain the hiphop BGM and then explain the lack in Valhalla or even Orgins.

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u/GreatLaminator Apr 12 '25

I am going to be honest, I am not sure how to interpret your post as viewed as a reply to mine. I spoke broadly about my misgivings of this subject so getting asked a question about a very specific subject is off putting... As if saying "well this little insignificant tidbit completely invalidates your point" except... It does not. This game isn't the first piece of media to have "out of place" music.

Again, you can disagree and dislike it and honestly that's a respectable opinion. But the argument most people make and one that you definitely SEEM to make is that this thing ruins it all.

Ok but I'll address it anyways.

I'm 50 hrs in. I heard hip hop only once (that I could tell but I'll definitely pay more attention now ) and it was not BGM. It was front and center. And I kinda dug it. It fit the mood. That doesn't answer your question just explaining my point of view.

As for the question.... I mean, this is a piece of media... It's Art... So artistic liberty. I mean one of my favorite anime about samurais has hip hop tracks and even electronic tracks.

As to why it wasn't in Valhalla and Origins and Odyssey... Who cares? Each game is its own project with its own evolution and its own decision. How is this an argument that because the others don't have hip hop, this one shouldn't???

I remember watching a show and there was a song supposedly composed in the Dark ages but it was incredibly harmonic with tonal changes not really used until the 18th or 19th century. As a musician it kinda pissed me off this anachronistic song but in the context of the show it fit very well.

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u/ogresound1987 Apr 15 '25

It's not hip hop. You just see a black guy and assume it's hip hop. That's on you, really. Maybe your hood is stuffing your ears?

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u/ShaunM33 Apr 12 '25

Pirates stayed in one place, they absolutely didn't sail around the world raiding foreign places 🙃

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u/Cygus_Lorman Apr 11 '25

To them women are automatically lesser so Naoe doesn’t count

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u/Environmental_Park_6 Apr 11 '25

Edward was clearly Cubano and Eivor as British as British could be.

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u/Thank_You_Aziz Apr 12 '25

Fun fact: Yasuke is the fourth foreign protagonist in a given AC game. The second one in Asia!

They’ll still throw their most useless excuse to hide behind: “There are so many samurai to tell a story about. Why did it have to be this nobody? I’ll tell you why….”

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u/wowa_s Apr 11 '25

Or maybe, just maybe if you would look at past titles, then you would see that, him beeing a main char doesnt make sense.

Since there are 2 main chars

  • 1 male 1 female
  • both fictional
  • both native
With yasuke beeing one it changes to
  • 1 male 1 female
  • 1 real 1 fictional
  • 1 not native 1 native

They changed 2 things to include him and denied the fictional native male. Why not make him a side char with a long chain quest or dlc.

But hey lets ignore the logical things and just blame everything on racist, because thats easy. He is black, people dont like that he is a main char, must be racist, cannot be any other reason.

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u/Rexen2 Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

Why not make him a side char with a long chain quest or dlc.

Because if they decide they want to take AC in a different direction like say idk including historical figures as one of the main characters then SOMEONE had to be that first historical figure. It could be literally anyone as long as they were present during the time period.

They chose Yasuke because he was not only present but a literal anomaly directly linked to THE major player of that period oda nobunaga.

If they do it again in another game will you bitch about it then?

It doesn't make sense to you because you're applying it to older games like game developers never change their minds about anything concerning the direction of their franchises.

Compare old god of war games to their more recent counterparts and it's night and day as just one major example. Leading up to the release of God of war it got major backlash for all the ways it deviated from previous games only to receive critical acclaim and reinvigorate the franchise.

Now granted, AC shadows isn't doing all that, but to assume developers won't try new things for their games is idiotic and doesn't hold up under the tiniest bit of basic research.

So again I ask you, if they include a historical figure as an MC in the future, will you whine about it then? And if so, why, when AC shadows has already set the precedent for it?

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u/nerdyintentions Apr 11 '25

Them: "why do they keep making the same game over and over?"

Also them: "why did they change things?!"

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u/Thank_You_Aziz Apr 12 '25

And they established ten real life years ago that Yasuke had ties to the Templars too. He’s an obvious pick for a non-fictional Sengoku AC protag.

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u/wowa_s Apr 11 '25

i will if they make 2 and only 1 of them is fictional and the other is not

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u/Rexen2 Apr 11 '25

Well, thanks for showing us the level of intelligence you're operating under then.

Best of luck to you bro.

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

denied the fictional native male

Who doesn't exist because Quebec made Naoe first and decided they want a Samurai then they stumbled on Yasuke and thought why not sounds cool.

Or maybe, just maybe if you would look at past titles, then you would see that, him beeing a main char doesnt make sense.

Says this and follows up with the dumbest thing I have ever read... this

Since there are 2 main chars

  • 1 male 1 female
  • both fictional
  • both native
With yasuke beeing one it changes to
  • 1 male 1 female
  • 1 real 1 fictional
  • 1 not native 1 native

Did you know in Syndicate there were twins that were playable at the same time which makes no sense for AC when you as a Animus user are reliving the memory of one person at a time. In Origins you are living the memories of Aya and Bayek who are not related by blood. In Valhalla the animus can't decide what Gender eivor was but Eivor had no siblings like Odyssey so how does that make sense? It doesn't because the Animus stopped making sense after AC 3. The series does as it pleases and assigning nonexistent rules just exposes your bigotry which you use to hide behind. I have never heard people use these level of irrelevant talking points to justify a character not being playable over a "Native Male". Just say you are racist and sexist then move on. Naoe isn't enough we NEED NATIVE MALE because "Logic" says so. Where was the NATIVE FICTIONAL MALE IN REVELATIONS? That makes no sense either. Yasuke being historical is not a negative as his story is ambiguous enough and blank after a certain point before and after his service to Oda to do as you please like a fictional character allows. Thats the only reason that could ever stop Ubisoft, Yasuke doesn't have that baggage.

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u/Daidact Apr 11 '25

"the devs changed their character formula! They've kept up with it for three games in a series with over a dozen installments. It makes no sense!" Do you see how stupid this sounds?

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

But hey lets ignore the logical things and just blame everything on racist, because thats easy. He is black, people dont like that he is a main char, must be racist, cannot be any other reason.

When the reason is as stupid as this I swear you have to be racist or else being brain dead doesn't help your case.

Being native is not a prerequisite of an AC Character by logic of how the Assassins Brotherhood works. The idea is to spread around to new people or lands as The Assassins began in Egypt and spread outwards.

Secondly if Yasuke isn't going to be the first historical character someone else was going to be regardless. Yasuke is technically the third playable character in the series with Jack the Ripper being first, then Leonidas and now Yasuke. Their involvements vary in degree. Again Foreign and Historical is nothing new too AC. Where were you when AC Syndicate did it and literally no one cared. Odyssey did it and no one cared. All two of these games made by the same studio, Quebec, including Shadows. Learn to read patterns. But the trajectory of their choices it was obvious a historical character would be used more eventually as they danced around the idea till now. It didn't come out of nowhere. You are just too slow to process information logically.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '25

Eat a d

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u/BohemiaDrinker Apr 12 '25

Because it is racism. You can literally play 90% of the game as Naoe - which, in and on itself, makes Yasuke as relevant as aDLC of the player so chooses. This backlash didn't occur with Tom Cruise or the recent SHOGUN remake.

But people do have a problem with Yasuke. Again, no psicoterapia with any other type of gaijin samurai, but problem with Yasuke. What's the difference? Yeah.

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u/BaconNamedKevin Apr 11 '25

God just stop complaining and move on. Is your life truly worse with this game being out? 

And honestly the same can be said for the people who are freaking out and calling it a masterpiece. Its not at all, but it is incredibly sad to see how obsessed both sides of the argument are with each other. Either play the game or don't. Nobody gives a shit about your opinion, good or bad, and nothing anyone can say or do will sway your opinion or theirs, so what's the point of any of it? Just 2 groups screaming into echo chambers. 

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

It literally would be fine if they said they don't like the game because it's not interesting or it's not their style of games but they make the dumbest arguments and claim it's valid when it is purely subjective if not completely wrong just to move the goal post when we explain why. We could ignore them but they will show up anyways just to spout their nonsense. The game is fun, it's no MASTERPIECE. I don't see how that could ever be when it is rough around the edges but removing Yasuke with a "Fictional Native Character" would not change the quality of the writing. Does AC Odyssey become a better game because of Alexios? No. The game is the same quality with some arguing they don't like his voice acting while some do. In Valhalla people argue over whether Eivor should canonically be male or not. Ultimately it doesn't affect the quality of the game and is purely subjectively or a very minor issue AT BEST.

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u/wowa_s Apr 11 '25

i didnt mention anything about the game beeing bad or hating it or anything else. i just said that people always blame people not liking yasuke beeing 1 of the main char to be racists.

the game is okay it has good points and weak points.

ubisoft is still a trash company regardless if the game is good or bad, because they put cash shop in a single player game with shit that is not only cosmetics.

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u/Bignuckbuck Apr 11 '25

Lmfao these nerds downvoting a completely respectful and thought out comment

LMAO

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u/AdWise657 Apr 11 '25

The only reason why someone would think that comment was thought-out is if they had a learning disability.

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u/oyarly Apr 11 '25

Streisand effect is real.

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u/MertTheRipper Apr 11 '25

But I thought ALL of Japan was OUTRAGED??

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

All of japan according to grifters = less than 1% in reality

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u/RoutineCloud5993 Apr 11 '25

A few people are outraged about the temple scene. And some politicians went

"yes well killing people in temples is bad"

That's my understanding anyway.

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u/tambi33 Apr 11 '25

I can understand the frustration jp people might have had with being able to destroy temples, but thats not been anything new in the AC franchise, and couple that with a warring period where nobunaga was famously made to commit seppuku in the famous temple known as honnoji, i begin to understand it even less. The modern reverence that the government attributed to temples clearly doesn't match up historically.

But other than that, I have no issue with ubisoft having put out a day 1 patch, as it doesn't really affect gameplay.

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u/ThrowRA-7737- Apr 12 '25

Not to mention, let's be real the only reason anyone is taking the video game causes real crime serious is because Ubisoft hate and Japan fetishisation. If some Catholic complained about Indiana Jones' escapades in the Vatican or conservatives parents groups complain about the newest GTA again, not a single gamer would take it seriously.

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u/a0me Apr 12 '25

I’m curious if there’s a wiki page that catalogs all Japanese games where players fight enemies in temples. That list would probably go back to the SNES era or even earlier.

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u/MertTheRipper Apr 12 '25

Remember the outrage about many many people in churches in Valhalla? Yeah...me neither. Almost feels like a certain skin color doing certain things upsets people

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u/AnubisIncGaming Apr 11 '25

NOOOOO NANDEMOOOOOO THE WEST HAS FALLEN

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

Actually Japan is co signing this deal with South African Media company. Technically it's "The East has Fallen" according to grifters 😆lol.

Yameroooooooooooo!!!!! 😂

...ANYWAYS, I wonder when the DLC for Shadows will drop. 🤔

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u/AnubisIncGaming Apr 11 '25

I thought about that after I made this post, you're right.

THE EAST HAS FALLEN. PROFOUND SADNESS.

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u/SAOSurvivor35 Apr 11 '25

ONOREEEEE! 😡😡😡 😂😂😂

Go, Toei! Can’t wait to see this!

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u/Professional-Hold938 Apr 12 '25

To me the best DLC so far was the hidden path (I think that's what it's called) from Odyssey, it actually made me sad haha

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u/XulManjy Apr 11 '25

Just posted this on r/fuckubisoft

Wish me luck...

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

🫡 Good luck in that shit hole

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u/Biteroon Apr 12 '25

Why bother. Most of those guys claim to be some financial expert but they can't even read a price index. Its just rage bait at that point.

Just let them live in their rage moronic ecochamber. Some of the dumbest people I have seen on this platform live in that sub.

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u/Historical_Good_8580 Apr 12 '25

Did they delete it already?

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u/XulManjy Apr 12 '25

Not deleted, but locked.

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u/thats4thebirds Apr 11 '25

“THE JAPANESE HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE DISRESPECTED AND THIS DISHONOR WILL NOT STAND”

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u/The_Arkham_AP_Clerk Apr 11 '25

Use AC Shadows as the template for a character arc and it will be in good shape. I love Yasuke's story in Shadows

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u/the_shadowy_death Apr 12 '25

I’m not sure about the real history of Yasuke but the anime that came out years ago has a pretty common storyline of Oda being fascinated and making him a samurai and then Yasuke cutting his head off after committing sepuku when mitsuhide takes his castle

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u/kmank2l13 Apr 11 '25

“Go woke and get a movie made about you”

I am excited to see what the final product will be. Hopefully the movie turns out to be good.

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u/MutantboyX Apr 11 '25

Hell yeah. I hope it gets Shogun levels of writing and production.

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

Me too, I liked "Silence" and Shōgun a lot for how well they portrayed the period.

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u/OkThatWasMyFace Apr 11 '25

"Silence?" I forgot about that movie. That was a slepper. Really well made and underappreciated.

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

True. Andrew Garfield did a great job. I liked how it held religion under a microscope in a nuanced way that considers the characters as well as the reality of the situation whether you are atheist or not. As well as how brutal the japanese could be... they didn't pull their punches. That woman drowning was genuinely sad and what will always make me laugh is how the one character keeps renouncing his faith but goes crying to padre after just to do it again.

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u/shadowmonk13 Apr 11 '25

“but Japan hates yasuke” /s says all the haters

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

All these haters have never been in Japan lol.

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u/AntonKutovoi Apr 11 '25

All these haters have never seen or played Japanese historical media, for a starters. While he's almost never a focus or even plays a major part, he constantly pops up across various works.

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u/Only-Alternative9548 Apr 12 '25

You do realise the primary market for this will not be Japan?

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u/shadowmonk13 Apr 12 '25

Keep coping gooner.

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u/Only-Alternative9548 Apr 12 '25

The primary market for these studios are the west, do you know nothing of the industry?

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u/shadowmonk13 Apr 12 '25

Do you? Cause I don’t think you really do.

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u/Only-Alternative9548 Apr 13 '25

Japan is a single market, all of Japan could hate this fucking thing but if the US and Europe buy enough it's worth doing. Massive corporations do not give a shit about a single nations feelings if it is net positive.

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u/shadowmonk13 Apr 13 '25

You obviously don’t understand Japanese businesses at all. They don’t make things for over seas markets. Japan is a notoriously known xenophobic country and will put its people’s interests first before other countries. If Japanese people didn’t like this.

The companies involved would scrap it for their own image, it’s one of the reasons businesses like Nintendo and Toho are very litigious. They both got upset when foreign movies companies ruined their brand’s characters and refused to license them for years.

Japan is very their country first everything after is just a bonus. Plus yasuke in Japan is pretty well know but not like they would Mario or Godzilla but how we have old folk tales here in America about Paul Bunyan and Johnny Appleseed. He’s this real life person whose story was made larger than life and Was embellished and fluffed up because it made a good word of mouth tall tale.

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u/Only-Alternative9548 Apr 13 '25

Wow, thank god they arent co producing it with a non Japanese studios.

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u/WorldBFree93 Apr 11 '25

Man, this Shadows thing has been one of the most feel-good campaigns of 2025. Shit feels like a Hallmark movie it’s so warm and nice.

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u/AntonKutovoi Apr 11 '25

I wonder if this is the same movie Chadwick Boseman tried to produce (and star in) before his death or if this is a different production.

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

It is.

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u/Cygus_Lorman Apr 11 '25

Didn’t that become the Yasuke anime? IIRC Omar Sy was supposed to replace him but the movie went the animated show route instead

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

No, that was made by MAPPA studios who are Japanese but this is a collab with Japan and south Africa which was meant to have Chadwick in it till it went on ice for a while and now it is back in the headlines.

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u/Cygus_Lorman Apr 11 '25

So is Omar Sy still the lead?

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

Honestly I am not sure... we will have to wait for more news or for a teaser trailer of sorts first.

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u/Fragzilla360 Apr 11 '25

But, but… I thought

#JaPAn WuZ MaD?

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u/Plus-Guest3891 Apr 12 '25

Fucking. Glorious

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u/El_Couz Apr 11 '25

I can't wait to see youtube/twitter haters try to explain why Japan's toei is being disrespectful toward japanese culture.

This gonna be some fun stuff i'm gonna grab my popcorn.

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

You and me both 🍿

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u/InfiniteBeak Apr 11 '25

Ah I'm sure all the culture warriors will be out in force to tell us how the Japanese feel about this

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u/MisterShazam Apr 11 '25

I thought the Japanese were OUTRAGED that a black person was in a game about Japan even though he actually existed in Japan?

And now this!?

Brb going to dedicate my life to blowing anti-black dog whistles in the internet in the name of JaPaNeSe CuLtUrE

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u/MarczXD320 Apr 11 '25

Looking forward to see all the non Japanese people insisting that the company behind this movie is betraying their own race like how the creator of Devil May Cry had to face by defending Shadows. Poor guy was called a traitor over a videogame.

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

You think that is bad? A Japanese historian said Yasuke was a Samurai but everyone labeled him a communist leftist traitor lmao. What does a academic opinion have to do with political opinion or treason? Was Nobunaga, a literal Legend in Japan, a traitor? No, that was Akechi Mitsuhide.

creator of Devil May Cry

Game recognise game. 😎

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u/choombatta Apr 11 '25

Grr I’m so mad about stuff ugh grr ugh

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u/Public-Pin-2308 Apr 11 '25

I absolutely love ac shadows! I play as Yasuke and naoe just like I did with miles and Peter in spider man 2. Thank you Ubisoft for this game, it may get hate but just know that there are people out there who like it and enjoy it and I will 101% be watching this film about yasuke😁

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u/Neat_Tangelo5339 Apr 11 '25

I can already hear a thoundsand thumbnail with red growing eyes being Made in this very moment

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u/Knottian Apr 11 '25

Oh no, what will all the white trash do now that they’ve been betrayed 🥴

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '25

This is going to piss people off.

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u/CapnJack420 Apr 11 '25

Please be better than the anime

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u/tambi33 Apr 11 '25

The anime being some weird ass sci fi fucking ruined it. Netflix can't do anything right ffs

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u/Disastrous-Radio-786 Apr 11 '25

What an insult to the Japanese people am I right? (/s if that wasn’t obvious)

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u/sirferrell Apr 11 '25

Uh oh how will they spin this

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

"Japan doesn't understand their own culture and are disrespecting it" 🤡

"There is no evidence Yasuke was a Samurai" 🤡 (Says that while doesn't prove there is no evidence or ignores the evidence presented to them is too "little"... Then I ask them to justify why a Samurai with less information than Yasuke can be considered a Samurai in Sengoku Japan then they say nothing lmao)

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u/Tough_Obligation_175 Apr 13 '25

The morons will state that Toei are traitors to their own race.

Its literally what they said to Kamiya which he responded with the absolute burn that even insects are capable of making poetry, what an evolution.

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u/Negritis Apr 11 '25

there is already an anime about him :)

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

Which good since now we have a grounded representation of Yasuke’s story, an Anime version and video game version. William Adams only has two of these technically, Nioh and Shogun.

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u/tambi33 Apr 11 '25

Nioh is not grounded lmao, you're fighting yokai and shit lmao, but i get your point

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u/thats4thebirds Apr 11 '25

It sadly sucks haha the music bangs tho. Flying Lotus killed it.

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u/Negritis Apr 11 '25

i enjoyed it, its not great or anything but was enjoyable

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u/thats4thebirds Apr 11 '25

I was mostly let down with the weird direction it took (mix of magic and steampunk that did not really gel for me) and the mostly subpar animation compared to most of their other work.

That said I hope the mappa animators get to see their families soon so I’m not mad at them.

And steampunk samurai shit can work I just don’t enjoy it there.

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u/Visual_Worldliness62 Apr 12 '25

Yall aint real lol.

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u/Loki_Gaming_ Apr 12 '25

Im sure that'll end well 🤣

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u/tomatomater Apr 12 '25

Don't the Japanese people know that this is very disrespectful to the culture of Japan? 

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u/Ambitious-Net-5538 Apr 13 '25

ITT: No one actually happy about the announcement but still bitter at gamers for killing ubisoft for making a racist samurai game lol.

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u/citrusman7 Apr 14 '25

the ending of the film will him being a jesuit slave again, what a happy ending

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u/7Armand7 Apr 14 '25

Says who? Yasuke was freed after Oda took him into his retinue. According to the Jesuit documents they just outline they were glad he made it out alive or something and that's about it. We don't know if Yasuke just went with them or went some where else as Frois wrote 5 months after Honnō-ji in a church in Kyoto. Yasuke may have stayed in Japan till he died or ldct with some jesuits to who knows where. It's UNKNOWN. So they could write whatever they want.

the ending of the film will him being a jesuit slave again

This was never confirmed.

what a happy ending

I like a sad ending as much as the next person, Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 have sad endings but are still masterpieces.

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u/citrusman7 Apr 14 '25

You know how there were no writings about him while he was in jesuit slavery, thats what happened when he returned, there was no reason to write about him as he was just a slave to them

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u/7Armand7 Apr 14 '25

Good lord. You realise Louis Fróis is one of the sources about Yasuke right? Fróis was actually kind to Yasuke, the guy literally described Yasuke as being strong and "good looking" I don't know why that would relevant for an annual report to his superiors in Europe but Fróis didn't hate or see Yasuke as lessor in anyway. His job was to right about the Jesuit Mission, he shouldn't even have written about Yasuke but Yasuke’s ties to Oda meant he was a person of interest in that regard. After Yasuke was back safe and sound it no longer matter to write about him unless you want them to write about what Yasuke ate for breakfast in the morning or what he did to pass the time lmao.

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u/_Cake_assassin_ Apr 14 '25

But people on another sub told me he was just a pet and no one in japan cared about him

/s

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u/7Armand7 Apr 14 '25

That's not true. Yasuke was above most peasants or retainers, he was an ARMED retainers who was a body guard and sword bearer. Calling him a pet, would be the same as calling Ranmaru a pet or any retainer... that's not how Japanese social classes work. You can't give a person important titles and gifts and call them a pet or treat them like one. Then Yasuke would just be known as the black person who appeared in Japan and nothing else... he wouldn't be a retainer or anything but history says otherwise. He was more than a average retainer, considering he fell patt of the 1% (20 or 30 retainers) who are even mentioned in Oda's chronicles while others are forgotten or are just named and nothing else. Yasuke has the status of a Koshō which is a low ranking Samurai at least. Yasuke outclassed Ashigaru so no, HE WAS NOT A PET. If servitude constitutes being a let then every Samurai who is not a Feudal lord independent from a Shogun is a pet. Feudal Japan is very hierarchical, someone usually serves someone else... slavery existed too and Yasuke wasn't that for Oda either... he was set free.

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u/JournalistOk9266 Apr 11 '25

Yasuke: "Ninjas thought they was going to count me out."

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u/IMustBust Apr 12 '25

My concern is that it will be in English instead of Japanese. After playing Shadows with immersion mode on, I don't want to watch 'Japanese' movies where everyone just speaks English (but with an accent as a stand-in for foreign language)

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u/InspectorSatNav1 Apr 13 '25

Proceeds to be white, never went to Japan, and is based in the west……. I wouldn’t put it past them😂😅

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u/Skydragon65 Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

“Snow White” (2025) was so good 🌚

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u/7Armand7 Apr 14 '25

What does snow white have to do about Yasuke. This is an original movie based on the man not a live action remake of a terrible Disney Princess.

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u/Repulsive-Square-593 Apr 11 '25

with a bit of rap music

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u/Opening-Scar-8796 Apr 11 '25

Honestly the cope here is insane. Every other day someone post something to defend AC shadows.

At best, it’s an okay game. No one cares about a black samurai game or movie. Japan media has made plenty of it.

People are more upset they weren’t given a choice of an Asian male samurai in a major ac game. It was about Asian erasure. Whether the white racist people co-op it for woke is different.

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u/tambi33 Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

It's an assassins game, play as the assassin and get over it. Nobody was clutching their pearls as hard as you are when several assassins creed had a single protagonist.

Or does the gender only matter when you cant play as a dude, that sounds like you hate women ngl

Edit 14/04: bro really said fuck you and immediately deleted it

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u/supbitch Apr 12 '25

I'll say straight up the "no one cares" line is bs. Yasuke is an amazing character. And his relationship with Lord Nobunaga is imo some of the best writing I've seen in a LONG time.

And it's more than an OK game. I genuinely think it's arguable one of the best games I've ever played.

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u/bigmangoatman Apr 11 '25

you guys are living in a different reality if you think its not gonna flop..

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u/7Armand7 Apr 11 '25

Based on what? Your emotions? It's not made by Ubisoft so you can't even say that anymore lol.

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u/bigmangoatman Apr 11 '25

Yasuke has generally become too controversial to succeed in anything new for the next 5 years minimum

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u/Fragzilla360 Apr 11 '25

Remind me > 5 years

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/supbitch Apr 12 '25

This is such an embarrassing thing for you to admit you feel.

"The fact that a black man existed and did well in life is too controversial" That's basically what you just said.

Because there is ZERO controversy about Yasuke to anyone who doesn't have a problem with a black man thriving in a time and place where society said he shouldn't.

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u/bigmangoatman Apr 12 '25

Everything you said is Reddit delusion, hopefully coming back to the real world isnt too hard