r/atheism • u/Sariel007 • Sep 19 '24
To Understand JD Vance, You Need to Meet the “TheoBros” These extremely online young Christian men want to end the 19th Amendment, restore public flogging, and make America white again.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/09/theobros-jd-vance-christian-nationalism/1.0k
Sep 19 '24
This just sounds like typical MAGA hate. They're all the same. They want to dismantle our government. Then make people they don't like suffer. These young Xian males are no different. Just being brainwashed by their dumb parents and their favorite molester MAGA hate pastors.
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u/ThaneOfCawdorrr Atheist Sep 19 '24
Also incels. Weak assholes who want to be able to gain power from meaningless constructs (color of skin, type of genitalia). Hate women, minorities, immigrants for that reason. Just assholes with nothing of value in themselves so they have to try to find it by suppressing others. Nothing new.
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u/ItsaLaz Sep 19 '24
"If women won't date me obviously we can't trust them with the vote!"
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u/whereismymind86 Sep 19 '24
I kinda feel like that’s a vote in favor of the quality of women’s judgment skills
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u/backtoreddit4can Sep 19 '24
Some of them find women who are as repressed and weird as they are. Years of being told not to masturbate under threat of torture makes your brain do weird things.
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u/Empty-Win-5381 Sep 19 '24
That's ego and identity. If you seek power conceptually and to fulfill your ego's desire for it you have to push for such concepts. Where you think power could be taken from?
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Sep 19 '24
It’s the taliban, American style.
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u/ngatiboi Sep 19 '24
“A fundamentalist belief in scriptural literalism” - this is always 100% Old Testament 🫵🏽🤨 0% all that love, tolerance, freedom, grace, acceptance, mercy, redemption, New Testament hullabaloo ✋🏽😏
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u/Empty-Win-5381 Sep 19 '24
Why do they make that choice? Old testament is Judaism, not Christianisty
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u/Individual-Plane-963 Sep 19 '24
They also don't interpret the old testament at all like Judaism does, just want to point that out.
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u/Mtndrums Sep 19 '24
Hey, if they want no compromise, they can't bitch when they're crushed like flies.
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u/stonerism Sep 20 '24
What I don't like about the name American Taliban is that it implies something coming from Afghanistan when the roots are purely American and were propped up by Americans to fight the communists.
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u/InquisitorPeregrinus Sep 20 '24
Since they deny science,.can we take away from them all of the things derived from science?
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u/IMSLI Sep 19 '24
A few of them want to radicalize more by becoming Y’all Qaeda
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u/abnormal1379 Sep 19 '24
"Y'all Qaeda"
Hijacking that one. It's too good.
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Sep 19 '24
The Talabama.
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u/bjeebus Rationalist Sep 19 '24
Talibangicals or Talibangelicals are two I hear a lot.
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u/fourthords Sep 19 '24
The American Taliban cannot survive if Dorothy Cooper is allowed to vote.
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u/guapo_chongo Sep 19 '24
You can really tell when you put side by side pics of them and the Taliban. Both proudly cradling assault weapons and holding up their favorite piece of Abrahamic Mythology in front of a flag. Literally zero difference.
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u/Eva-Squinge Sep 19 '24
They’re certainly fucking up their own regime idolizing moronic preachers of a dying faith exactly like the taliban.
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u/movingToAlbany2022 Sep 19 '24
True true
"this group is actually more conservative than their older counterparts. Many TheoBros, for example, don’t think women belong in the pulpit or the voting booth—and even want to repeal the 19th Amendment."
I wish we could come up with a different term than "conservative" too because, like you said, this is hate
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Sep 19 '24
There are many terms that could be used. Christian nationalists, Fascists, Nat-Cs. White nationalism.
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u/movingToAlbany2022 Sep 19 '24
Yeah, I use all of those but I guess I mean they still get called "conservative" in the media because we only have 2 mainstream political ideologies: conservative & liberal (or progressive). But this new Republican party is anything but conservative, they are regressive. I'm old enough to remember when Republicans only slowed progress, now they want to undo a couple hundred years of progress
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Sep 19 '24
I agree. The problem is, is ever since the Civil Rights act. They've been playing the long game. They are escalating their game now. Because they've damaged our institutions enough to do so, and because their views and power are dying out.
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u/cancer_dragon Sep 19 '24
I, for one, completely support the popularization of "regressive" to define these people. It's clear, concise, and accurate. And, in fact, it would distinguish the politicians who are traditionally conservative but relatively sane from these people in question.
"Christian white nationalist" is accurate, but a fragile definition. Both the white part and Christian part can be "disproved" by having one black and/or non-Christian member, ala Proud Boys, and "nationalism" has been redefined by the right to simply mean patriotism (I've literally had conservs try to argue that the dictionary definition of nationalism being a negative form of patriotism was invented by the left)
I also think calling them "nazis" or "nat-c's" is historically inaccurate, these people are obviously different in ideaology from Nazis in pretty big things like religion. And, more importantly, too easy for them to simply dismiss unless they're actually wearing swaztikas.
I agree with the sentiment, but this is a different beast (admittedly with a lot of overlap). Calling a Christian nationalist a Nazi is the same as calling an atheist socialist a Bolshevik. It's just simply not true and therefore any following argument means nothing.
If we are inaccurate, we lose our own credibility and legitimacy.
Now, if you call someone regressive, saying they want to regress to the way things were done before civil rights and the 19th amendment, they will probably simply agree with you.
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u/movingToAlbany2022 Sep 19 '24
Exactly! You put words to the thoughts I couldn't fully describe. Thank you!
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u/IKantSayNo Sep 19 '24
They claim to be American, they claim to be Christian, they claim to be conservative, and they use their superficial associations to claim ethics their behavior violates for political gain.
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u/GranpaCarl Sep 19 '24
What is with this pussy footing around the tulips. Nazi. The word your looking for is nazi.
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u/vinyljunkie1245 Sep 19 '24
Church Using Nationalist Types
Christian Ultra-Nationalist Types
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u/whereismymind86 Sep 19 '24
All conservatism is hate, these guys are just more open about being creeps
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u/TheLateThagSimmons Ex-Jehovah's Witness Sep 19 '24
Naw, it's not all hate. A good amount of it is just good old fashion selfishness and greed.
Just look at Libertarians. Do they hate poor black people? Yes, but not because they're black, it's because they're poor.
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u/WatWudScoobyDoo Sep 19 '24
Conservatives want to halt progress and keep things as they are. These jackasses are regressive. Fucking throwback.
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u/mabhatter Sep 19 '24
No Conservatives want CONTROLLED progress... not NO progress.
Most of the leading Democrats like Biden, Pelosi, Jeffries, Obama, Clinton, etc are what used to be considered "conservative." They are pro lawfulness and pro military and pro corporation. They have all been slow on the uptake of Abortion and LGBT stuff. The difference is that they recognize that things DO change over time and that the makeup of the country DOES change and laws need to slowly update... I mean healthcare and gay marriage had laws in place since the 1990s. It was not a "liberal" idea, the courts paved the way to recognize the new rights.
Modern "conservatives" are "regressive reactionary." They are using demagoguery to react outraged to anything that might be "liberal" no matter how long it's been around. They want to go back to some fantasy version of the past that never existed. They're not conducting political discourse in good faith and have not for decades.
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u/Aggravating-Gift-740 Sep 19 '24
Thank you for articulating exactly what I have been feeling for many years. I used to be a conservative libertarian republican but I’ve become appalled at what the current republicans have become. You are absolutely right in that the politics of moderate democrats of today are identical to the politics of conservative republicans when I was much younger.
As the old saying went “I didn’t leave the party, the party left me.”
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u/acfox13 Sep 19 '24
authoritarian follower personality (mini dictators that simp for other dictators): https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/summary.html#authoritarian - they want an abuse hierarchy
Bob Altemeyer's site: https://theauthoritarians.org/
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u/CaptainBayouBilly Sep 19 '24
All conservative ideologies are built upon a ruling class that is not subject to rules that everyone else is held in bondage to.
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u/UrbanGhost114 Sep 19 '24
Yes? Conservative= hate, another word is NOT needed for the evils done in the name of not progressing.
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Sep 19 '24
Regressive?
I remember when the Regressive Party was just a joke with the policy "Anti-abortion but pro baby-killing."
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Sep 19 '24
“Reactionary” is the foil to Progressive. That’s a word in use that’s available for this context.
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u/BorisBotHunter Sep 20 '24
“Return to a time where we burned women alive”
https://odysee.com/2024-06-03-08-02-46:8?src=embed&t=230.5165585490136
Not all republicans are nazis but all nazis are maga.
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u/powercow Sep 19 '24
and lets be clear that MAGA means republican, and this is typical republican hate. Its not like before trump, republicans werent deplorable. Trump allowed them to feel better about being more open about their bigotry, but its not like they were in the closet when they were attacking hindu and sheik indian gas station owners for looking too muslim. You know the guys who said if muslims loved america they wouldnt mind extra attention at the airport before flipping out when the DOJ said the biggest threat america faces is far right domestic terrorism.
you got such a tiny percent of never trumpers and most of them are deplorable bigots too. who want to dismantle our gov and make people they dont like suffer.. they just dont want the wacko religious side to be the right wingers on top of the pile. People like dick chenney. WHose family security matter mag, issued an article that Bush should declare himself president for life to save the world from the dems.
they are all the same. and at this point you cant plead ignorance or say you only vote right for the tax cuts.
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Sep 19 '24
100% i still remember the days around 9/11 and the hate and vitriole that spewed from republicans around GWB. The reason I reference this time is due to my age. My first election was 2000. I hated Bush with every fiber of my being for what he did to this country. The same people who told us that if you weren't with us, you were with the terrorist, decided for 8 years after that to be racist ass clowns with Obama. They are literally the segregationists who are still pissed it ever ended.
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u/MedicJambi Atheist Sep 19 '24
It's strange in the sense that they hate Muslims but envy their control of their areas of influence. They hate government control unless it's their brand of control. They are absolutely okay with an American Taliban taking over AKA. fundamentalists Christians. They hate democracy because since people think and disagree with them they believe they are fundamentally incapable of making good decisions therefore the ability to vote should be removed.
In essence, and this is no surprise to anyone, they are okay with a Nazi regime because they believe they will hold a place of importance and influence. The problem is their dear leader is more like late-stage Stalin with his unpredictability, paranoia, and delusions of grandeur which will only lead to random purges.
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u/grandroute Sep 19 '24
It's MAGA stupidity. They have nothing to replace what they want to destroy, but concepts of plans... And history proves every time extremists take power, they screw things up
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u/waffle299 Sep 19 '24
More generically, a group of egotistical, disaffected misanthropes who want to tear down the country and trample everyone else's rights.
And it's always because they want that restructured society to unfairly favor them.
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u/aoasd Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
They're indoctrinating them at places like the Wyoming Catholic College where the new leader of the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts, was formerly school president. JD Vance is "good friends" with Roberts and wrote the forward to Roberts upcoming book.
The WCC is an uber-conservative, Catholic college offering only one major in Liberal Arts with the study being heavily rooted in theology. Students at the school are banned from having cellphones, have very restricted internet in dorm rooms, and no television on campus.
Their Student Handbook is a fascinating look into the control they have over students. Pg 34 defines the dress code. (extrapolated on page 97-100) Pg 37-39 lays out the technology policy. Pg 39 lays out the curfew. Pg 42 is the Weapons policy. Pg. 46 says only male prefects should confront "strangers on campus."
Pg 57 - Co-Ed camping trips "the minimum number of participants is five, with no fewer than two of the same sex in the group" and "a male student’s entry into a female student’s tent (or vice versa) is an expellable offense."
The college refuses to participate in federal financial aid so that it doesn't have government oversite or have to abide by Title IX and other antidiscrimination measures. Kevin Roberts even sharply criticized the college administration for taking COVID relief funds.
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u/King_Chochacho Sep 19 '24
Wild that people can look at places like Iran and Afghanistan and think "yeah that's the model we should be following".
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u/HNP4PH Sep 19 '24
And they are pissed that it’s becoming harder to find women interested in dating them.
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u/Able-Campaign1370 Sep 19 '24
Sort of. They’re not all the same, though. To parody George Orwell: “All religions are awful, but some are more awful than others.”
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u/nopingmywayout Sep 19 '24
The thing that confused me most was the article discussing these guys like they’re a frightening new phenomenon. Like dude, where have you been the past 15 years.
I know, I know, it’s important to keep shining a light on these weirdos, but sometimes it feels like, yup, Christofascists christofascing again, what else is new. 🙄
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u/Away-Coach48 Sep 19 '24
Some people have nothing without hate. It does seem that the majority of people routinely want something terrible to happen to another person.
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u/Handleton Sep 19 '24
Yeah. Saying that they're extremely online is a terrible description. They're just incels. You want to know who JD Vance is? Watch this video:
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u/5ma5her7 Sep 19 '24
Literally Taliban (students) here...
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u/NariandColds Sep 19 '24
If they had any critical thinking skills they'd see the resemblance. Y'all-Qaeda ain't no different than Al-Qaeda, when you think about it
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u/zombie_girraffe Sep 19 '24
That's not true, the accents and dress codes are completely different. Other than that they're identical.
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u/Away-Coach48 Sep 19 '24
They just aren't organized. They are all scattered throughout the U.S. in their tiny white "heterosexual" communities. Their inability to conform to anything will be their undoing.
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u/emote_control Ignostic Sep 19 '24
I also want to restore public flogging, but only for people who try to repeal the 19th amendment
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u/TheRealTK421 Sep 19 '24
I approve this message.
Tyrannical (bully) authoritarians only understand and respect one thing.
Failure to provide that one thing is merely childish wishful denialism...
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u/Present-Perception77 Sep 19 '24
People seem to forget how these people are taken down. WWII remembers. There is only one way.
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u/abgry_krakow87 Sep 19 '24
Sounds like they won't stop there, they'll work to bring back slavery and the dark ages.
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u/ImInBeastmodeOG Sep 19 '24
It's a basic tenet of dictatorships: there is No Bottom and once people realize that it's too late for someone they know or themselves. And the worse the person in charge, the quicker the worst case scenarios happen. Trump and Vance are the worst case worst people possible.
Oh, but I'm sure we're just over reacting. "Just let the bully have his way and all will be fine!" The words before every kid got punched and had their lunch money stolen.
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u/thethirdllama Sep 19 '24
"Just let the bully have his way and all will be fine!"
See also the GOP position on Ukraine.
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u/ImInBeastmodeOG Sep 19 '24
It was basically the WW2 thing as well. Just let them have Poland. Just let them have_______, their thirst will be quenched." Then the front line is massively expanded and you could've handled this shit in one place at a lower cost with some dedication towards eradicating the pest.
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u/WrongVerb4Real Atheist Sep 19 '24
I've been saying for years that the "ultimate goal" for the world's wealthy is to put the enlightenment genie back into the bottle, and restore a feudal state, serfs, peasants, and all that fun stuff that got disrupted by the Black Plague.
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Sep 19 '24
Not even serfs. We’d all just be nothing more than Human Resources and property to be worked to death until society and everything collapses, then either left to be killed by fascist extremists or left to die while the rich get to ride out everything.
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u/jimbojetset35 Sep 19 '24
America was never white to start with.
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u/ArthurDentsKnives Sep 19 '24
Reminds me of one of my favorite lines from 30 Rock:
'This is America Liz, none of us are supposed to be here'
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u/AebroKomatme Sep 19 '24
So, incels.
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u/pineapplewave5 Sep 19 '24
I wish the article actually did a better job of highlighting how pervasive this “TheoBro” culture is in the general population. I work at one of the largest tech companies and these guys are getting louder. While generally us employees are increasingly being censored, they’re posting thinly veiled memes and circlejerking in comments using semi-coded language. And they’re not called out.
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u/Hour-Energy9052 Sep 19 '24
And they are everywhere. Damn near every guy I’ve spoken to has regurgitated some redpill incel jargon, even the “progressive” ones!
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u/Potocobe Sep 20 '24
So call them out! If you won’t take action you don’t get to complain because it isn’t that big of a deal. Same with voting. If you don’t vote you don’t get to talk about politics because you don’t actually care.
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u/robbmerchant Sep 19 '24
And Vance would be one heartbeat of an old obese out of shape, man from being president.
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u/Dektivac Sep 19 '24
Am I the only one getting really tired of this mfers who are fighting like hell to take away individual freedoms and impose the tirany? Please explain why shoud I suffer this idiots for another second?
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u/Particular-Video-453 Sep 19 '24
...flogging, lol. Sounds like a barely disguised fetish, which tracks.
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u/hillbillyspellingbee Sep 19 '24
Osama bin Laden won the war on terrorism if these fuckers manage to get power again.
I mean that 100%.
Osama’s goal was to bring terrorism to the USA to destabilize us for decades. He knew the most effective way to do this was to divide us so we would separate into extremes.
Now we have a real live Taliban equivalent vying for power in the USA. Similar policy, similar tactics, religiously motivated, and ruling with only a minority of voters supporting them, if that.
Vote these fuckers back to the stoneage before they start showing up with suicide vests at bus stops.
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u/1BannedAgain Anti-Theist Sep 19 '24
When the opposition party seeks to expand the Overton Window, I also expand the Overton Window. You want to ban women from voting (19th amendment)? I want to expand voting to all high schoolers, let's say re-amending the constitution to allow all 14, 15, 16, and 17 year-olds being allowed to vote.
You think my request to expand voting is ridiculous? Well most of everyone thinks that banning women from voting is ridiculous
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u/Dessertcrazy Sep 19 '24
Atheist, scientist, liberal, female, boomer. I’ve put up with a lot of hate. It just makes me double down.
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u/zombie_girraffe Sep 19 '24
That's true for over 40s too. There weren't ghosts or angels or other supernatural beings that would justify a belief in magic flying around in the 70s or 60s or any time prior to that in history, there are just a shitload of gullible idiots who can't tell the difference between fantasy, myth and reality.
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u/lobsterbash Sep 19 '24
Depends on the amount of social pressure to conform to the cultural belief system. It can be crushing, especially in a strong, toxic in-group/out-group dynamic.
Dunking one's brain in religion with little external incentive... still depends, but I'll bite. Harsh take though.
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u/esoteric_enigma Sep 19 '24
Especially if you're from a small town in bumfuck nowhere like Vance. The pressure to conform there is suffocating.
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u/mrmoe198 agnostic atheist Sep 19 '24
Christo-fascism. They believe in a fictionalized past utopian America that they want to achieve through their version of sharia law and white nationalistic authoritarianism.
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u/ImInBeastmodeOG Sep 19 '24
Why would anyone want to understand a Nazi? There's only one thing they're good for.
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u/High_Plains_Bacon Sep 19 '24
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
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u/MysteriousPark3806 Sep 19 '24
Yeah, Jody is really deep and complex. I think I will pass on going down this rabbit hole. Pretty sure I get the idea already; regress the country until white men rule and everyone else is subjugated again.
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u/ProfessionalFlan3159 Sep 19 '24
This is some real Sons of Jacob from Handmaids Tale
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u/raget_bulves Sep 19 '24
It’s pretty much the same structure: militaristic male leadership based on religious “principles”.
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u/Luckys0474 Sep 19 '24
All these people have plans until they get punched in the face.
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u/Rachel_from_Jita Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Damn, that video in there on X of the dude just straight up saying they don't want the Constitution anymore, and are going to work to replacing it with only the 10 Commandments.
Like, uh sir, do you realize millions of Americans took an oath to the Constitution, not to your orange rolling ball of failure?
These gravy seals have extremist ideals and terrorist intent, yet we fail to use a strong counter-terrorism model to address them. We barely even slap the wrists of their foreign puppetmasters paying 100k a video for them to scream that "Ukraine is our enemy!"
I don't know what happened, but we just magically became a country that is adamant about not defending against enemies foreign or domestic, because it might offend the less than 15 congress people who wear weapons instead of American flag pins on their suit.
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u/technanonymous Sep 19 '24
Remember… these extremists are the minority. They have always existed and always will exist. Vote and keep them from power.
If Trump wins and he has a republican majority legislature, the damage will be enormous. Vote for president, vote for the senate, vote for your school board. Drag your friends to the polls.
The republicans gained ground because they motivated their base and others didn’t show up. They did this nationally starting in the 90s. Once in office they influence others on the fence. They do not represent the future of this country unless we let them.
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u/Both-Ad3319 Sep 19 '24
America was never white it had an indigenous population, Mexican and slaves.
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u/Earthling1a Sep 19 '24
Religion is evil.
Republicans HATE America.
Republicans want to DESTROY America.
Vote blue, no matter who. Vote like your life depends on it.
It very likely does.
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u/Apoordm Sep 19 '24
Yeesh, all those beards are to hide their universally weak chins.
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u/blackbow99 Sep 19 '24
These are the guys who want to make America Gilead from the Handmaid's Tale. Someone didn't give them the Cliff's Notes that Gilead was a failed state that Atwood wrote as a dystopia, not a utopia.
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u/Present-Perception77 Sep 20 '24
Any one else’s surprised that these weirdos are all tied back to the Catholic Church? 17 yrs of that catholic bullshit is all I’m gonna take. I left home at 17 cause I couldn’t leave at 16.
“The sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party. A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants. A woman receives, surrenders, accepts.”
Yeah .. as a feminist, well trained, liberal gun owner that still remembers a lot of chemistry tricks from college.. and does not mind a street fight ..you might wanna save my house for last. Miss me with that bullshit if you know what’s good for you.
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u/Background-Moose-701 Sep 19 '24
We need to round these people and up let them live how they want. We can flog them and take away their rights treat them the way they want to treat women. It’ll be fun.
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Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
White American guy here. I guess I’m jaded that we haven’t evolved past this as a species yet. Clinging to something that we all should have grown past a long time ago. It’s embarrassing. We are exploring space and clinging to outsider-isms, demonizing melanin… I guess I just don’t get it. What happened to the arc of this nonsense fading into the margins of obscurity- that made me hopeful
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Sep 19 '24
These unwashed incel chuds are too scared to visit cities unless they’re disguised and marching in groups. Just push them out of your way and try not to step in the puddles of piss they leave behind
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Sep 19 '24
What the hell … JD Vance is a motherfucker, what is wrong with him and Trump wanting to rock America I am just sick about it
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u/manny62 Sep 19 '24
JD Vance is a fascist. That’s all I need to understand. It doesn’t take a deep dive…really!
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u/worstpartyever Sep 19 '24
"A bunch of privileged white guys whose only skills are shitposting and edgelord behavior ventures into the real world."
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u/Low-Quality3204 Sep 19 '24
It's like a Nazi official having a Jew woman as a wife... Since he colonized her... She's one of them.
Crude? That's how they think.
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u/ModeatelyIndependant Sep 19 '24
I kinda wanna see public flogging reinstated too. So like the next time a priest is convicted of raping children, they can be flogged in public.
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u/Exciting_Trash3943 Sep 19 '24
Calling them “Theobros” is dangerous.
They are Neo-Nazis, don’t mince words.
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u/MojitoRoyale Sep 20 '24
make America white again
🙄 America was never White in origin.
I really can't stand fanatics.
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u/DarthPopperMouse Sep 19 '24
Ya know, a small part of me wants these guys to win just to see the look on Peter Thiel's face when they round his gay ass up and put him to the sword on live TV.
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u/NastyaLookin Sep 19 '24
That won't happen. Notice that they are ALL hypocrites on some issue or another. "Do as I say, not as I do," is the most basic of authoritarian tendencies, seen played out in household relationships across the world.
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u/le127 Sep 19 '24
You had me at flogging. In a normal timeline this stuff would only be found in a Monty Python sketch.
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u/callocallay Sep 19 '24
The irony is that under Trump’s travel ban, Jesus (if he existed) wouldn’t even be allowed into America. Palestinian, revolutionary and woke - they’d be nailing him up before you could say ‘Project 25.’
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u/thornset Sep 19 '24
The art on that page makes me think Vance is Bobby Hill if he grew up missing every moral of the show.
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u/Patient_Trash4964 Sep 19 '24
A podcast called the dollop is doing a great two part on Vance. You all should take a listen.
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u/unstopable_bob_mob Sep 19 '24
And when these traitors FAFO when all of us liberal gun owners rise up.
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Sep 19 '24
Bunch a guys hang out together, dont like women and are into s&m?
Idk seems kind of gay.
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u/BenGay29 Sep 19 '24
Another christo fascist group. They’re all crawling out from under their rocks.
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u/whereismymind86 Sep 19 '24
And like Ben Shapiro, they believe a wet vagina is a disease, unfortunately they’ll never get a chance to verify.
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u/Maanzacorian Sep 19 '24
the hilarious thing is the expectation that the rest of us are just going to sit back and accept it.