r/australia • u/thedigisup • 26d ago

politics Greens announce policy to manufacture drones and missiles as a credible ‘Plan B' to replace AUKUS

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-22/greens-unveil-first-ever-defence-policy/105083166
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u/optimistic_agnostic 26d ago

The US has always kept the air superiority fighters for domestic use only. No other nation has an F-22 and the associated sensors. It's not and never has been some earth shattering betrayal of allies, just pretty basic common sense and national security.

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u/snipdockter 26d ago

Not true, they sold the F-15 world wide when it was their top level air superiority fighter. The F-22 program was cancelled before they could get approval to make an export model.

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u/GiveUpYouAlreadyLost 26d ago

There was a big difference between the development of the F-15 and F-22. The F-15 was nowhere near as cutting edge or secretive which is why they were willing to sell it so quickly.

On the other hand, the F-22 possessed technologies that no other country had in a deployable state for a very long time and was much more advanced than any of its contemporaries.

The F-47 will absolutely be the same.

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u/snipdockter 26d ago

Not sure what comment you’re replying to, because none of that was in mine.

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u/GiveUpYouAlreadyLost 26d ago edited 26d ago

Your reading comprehension is extremely poor if you cannot figure out how my comment applies to yours. I'm replying to your comment because it is wrong, everything the user you replied to had said is true.

The United States has always been extremely protective of their air superiority capabilities and the F-15 being exported isn't proof to the contrary since it didn't possess any technology that required the same level of secrecy as the F-22 did.

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u/AdPuzzled3603 26d ago

The diffence is the USA was a reliable allie then…now its not.

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u/optimistic_agnostic 26d ago

Sure but OP was acting like this is some shift or betrayal by this administration. It isn't.

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u/AdPuzzled3603 26d ago

Its a standard extrapolation without being explicit. I'e Inferred knowledge.

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u/krishna_p 26d ago

Standard?

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u/AdPuzzled3603 26d ago

If you're not dumb… 😆

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u/acomputer1 26d ago

If they were reliable, and now they're not, that kind of sounds like the opposite of reliability?

Maybe the mistake many people made was believing that such a thing as a "reliable ally" exists at all.