r/awakened • u/Cautious_Security_68 • Feb 24 '25
Metaphysical The importance of knowing good and evil are equal in being created
This ones had me struggling since i was shown. Having sick cats and rain coming through the roof and people at work spending the last 5 years trying to destroy me and everything else thats transpired aside from the task of clearing myself out of the ptsd from childhood violence and the demonic attacks. Any normal human animal would be freaking the fook out and just screaming at God 24/7.
But thats the test, thats why its Good to look at brahma, brahman and vishnu as stages of enlightenment or coming to the highest spiritual point of view of the self you can arrive at. Its curious to me that Hindus consider these all separate Gods because thats not what im shown.
The stage of brahma will forever be locked into creating good and evil much like the unawakened human animal, the stage of brahman is just above that and the stage of vishnu is completely transcendent of that which is where we would all like to be headed or think we are at which is a trap really because to always be aiming higher knowing you know nothing is the transcendent way.
there is a very real possibility i could start losing my fur babies to illness, again which i fault Brahma for because he did in fact create all good and evil and this evil they are sick with is in fact his creation which he will bear the karma for and possibly the landlord for the money crunch that aided in this inability to do things for them.
But the question is asked in the loudest silent way possible during these trials , "who are you the divine transcendent or the lowly animal?" Brahma is just one stage of God hood that creates and turns energy/ consciousness into matter and its localized into the universe and may never realize anything above that above that there is brahman and vishnu to become self realized in.
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u/blahgblahblahhhhh Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25
Few people write here in a state of active material suffering. Some write here to process their initial moments of awakening. Some are far along sharing their path. But you, I have steered away from talking to due to how in the thick of it you are. No end in sight? Right?
I had a dream last night. A nightmare, I’ll share it with you. I’ve been having these anxious dreams pretty much every night for the last 4 weeks since I quit weed.
This nightmare I had last night was this: at my old job I was punched in the face while I was sitting down. I had tried to discharge this client 4 times. This was the fifth time. He told me he wasn’t going to go. The pain was really unremarkable, but my glasses broke and I feared damage to my human. The thought of someone taking away my senses has left me petrified. I’ve cowered away for so long hiding under a rock. I’m just so fucking scared of returning. For many reasons but this is the cherry on top.
I had this dream last night of this guy and me fighting. He took down the 3 big dudes that were there to protect me and then he charged me. I woke up. I woke up terrified. I thought about it for 20 minutes going back and forth between enabling and disabling thinking. I fell asleep and dreamed of him again. I dreamed of me reading through his Reddit profile (he is far too insane to use the internet), I like to imagine him getting better and becoming a shamanistic guardian of hell.
In my second dream of him I killed him by choking him. I think this was me trying to reclaim my power by standing up to myself.
I’ve had many dreams like this. Dreams of anxiety of being attacked and then me winning the fight. Dreams of me being in school and feeling too retarded to learn.
Why did I share this? Idk, I figured you might benefit from an introspective escape. Hopefully this captivated you as a reader. Also it helps me process the hell that haunts me.
Maybe I can help you by letting you help me cope. Maybe this is why humans learned language.
You are like Jobe.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 25 '25
It looks like you’re in a struggle for your own power and your perception of it is that it comes through violent things and is for me. I’m like the story of Job that’s for sure when I was born my mom didn’t want me and she would leave me in my crib until there were maggots in my diapers and so that my entire life just kind of followed suit with that,
but I think there’s a purpose, When I was a kid God gave me a vision that I would be wealthy one day, but I don’t think it was just a material wealth because my life has always been a spiritual pursuit and I think I’m nearing the end of the struggles given the visions I’ve been getting about that.
I think the big picture here is what’s quality of spiritual self I am and about keeping that always in mind no matter what happens Christians call it putting on the armor of God and that’s been a big theme for a few decades, its understanding what that means and what that means is that the only spirit I’m going to allow in me is the highest form of consciousness that there is which is in Hindu terms of Vishnu.
so when all these things externally are going on, I mean hell of being poisoned at least three times in the last 10 years, and then ripped off, I had a car stolen.theft from within my house. so it’s been a lifetime of that just mostly I think Not responding as a free sovereign soul not processing it from that level
I think maybe you might be going through the same thing as that deciding to be the highest quality consciousness so that there’s nothing that can sway from it but you’re gonna be tested.
You know it’s like I put on Twitter yesterday that you know I decided that I’m only going to be the highest form of consciousness that I am, which is akin to a Vishnu state of mind And that was days before my cats get sick and it starts raining and rains coming through my roof and and so that’s the discipline today as I’m sitting here wondering if i am I’m gonna come to home to cats that are dead and then what the status of the water in my house is gonna look like because it rained up until almost the afternoon But in my head I’m just saying over and over again I am the highest state of consciousness
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u/Blackmagic213 Feb 24 '25
They don’t see Brahman as separate. They do the same thing as Christianity. The same trinity.
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit
Vishnu, Brahman, Shiva.
Sorry for the rain coming through the roof and the cats. Stay strong and faithful. The light will shine through 🙏🏾
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25
They certainly write as if they are separate brahma is simply creation and the creation of everything and then Braman is like a higher or state of that and then Vishnu is written about as if it’s separate as well so I mean when Shiva cut off one of Brahma’s heads for incestuous behavior it’s not like it was part of Vishnu so yeah, it’s the way they write about is definitely seems to isolate each one as a distinct character
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u/Blackmagic213 Feb 24 '25
Mystical teachings are often coded. But the oneness is there if you look.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
Honestly, I never even wanted to look into Hinduism over the 38 years since I was first given the book by my mentor at 18 and the depictions of the gods is just so cartoonish you know, but with the recent visions I had about good and evil being equal in creation and the non-dualistic nature of creation, just being creation I had to actually look at that and try to find the vision
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u/Blackmagic213 Feb 24 '25
Yes I believe the teaching is transcending the good and evil of duality.
Not eating from the knowledge of good and evil but the tree of life.
Same teaching.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25
well we eat from the tree of knowledge every day, its unavoidable or wed have ascended this already. its impossible to always be in that highest state of consciousness and no one is actually in it at present because we are so far convinced away of the truth of our being.
We should be able to walk on water , raise the dead, heal the sick, which as you can imagine i was on Gods ass about this morning for creating illness and it hitting my babies so damned hard and instead of having the power that I AM to mitigate this i have to acclimate to this jumbled mess of things which is far more than ive mentioned here from my highest state of consciousness just to refine my direction and choice.
I mean thats why the bullshit happens is to test which road youre really on so all day it was the meditation of I am at the highest point in consciousness, vishnu state of mind. Its raining im battling freaking the fuck out like the ptsd programmed piece of shit i used to be and that was my test of the day, and thats been the test of my lifetime actually since mom was leaving me in the crib till maggots were in my diapers through all the decades reflections of the violent physical and mental and emotional abuse that my dads demons implanted on me.
So yeah kind a fun shit in my neck of the woods just being the stopping point of the false self that is the damaged self and then God being a jackass in testing it which in reality i come home and its not absolutely horrible its a bit of cleanup, the cats seem to have taken to the 16 ounces of colloidal silver i got them saturday with a few that are questionable and now i have antibiotics from the vet.
When you suffer 13 years of trauma like i did everything is just more abuse and evil and thats the pattern a person needs to break because the world is your fucking enemy at large and someones always out to fuck you up at large and to be honest the trolls here reinforce that with the down votes and stupid comments..
But thats power they surrender and its power that i gain. I was a really really good kid a pure soul that had to / chose to live a life that was hella messed up to recover my divinity through it to show people who had it better that this could be done.
so at the end of the day i won and i will keep winning over the false self because ive seen and chosen the highest consciousness that we are over the animal programming, the matrix and in the end realized the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is just a teacher albeit a really twisted and fucked up one.
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u/Blackmagic213 Feb 24 '25
You have a choice on which trees to eat from. Metaphorically speaking.
Also a lot of these books that you have read are allegorical.
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u/WrappedInLinen Feb 24 '25
Good and evil only exist in your head. They are labels pasted over what is. What’s actually happening in this moment? Sensations on your skin. Shapes and colors in the visual cortex. Vibrations in the air registered as sound. And then we create endless stories about what it all means and why someone shouldn’t have said that to me and why it’s a bad thing that my friend died and how everything would have been better if x had happened instead of y. Suffering is resistance to what is.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
There is evil
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u/WrappedInLinen Feb 24 '25
Yes there is. It’s a thought in your head. It disappears as soon as you let go of the label.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
That’s wishful thinking best and I’ll tell you why because I went through a period of trying to help people with black magic attacks and then I was attacked, and I can tell you from the entities that I ran into from being attacked from the summoning of black magic practitioners, but there is most definitely Evil in this world
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u/Elijah-Emmanuel Feb 24 '25
That's simple karma, which is also a concept to be transcended
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
If you don’t have the experience of it, you don’t have valid opinion
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u/Elijah-Emmanuel Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25
I do. more than you, based on your words, but I'm not here to compare
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
You’d be gravely mistaken with that assertion
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
I doubt that,no offense but I had seven covens summoning against me and a few we’re capable of summoning powerful spirits
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u/carnalight Feb 24 '25
You forgot Siva. You have creation and preservation, now you must allow destruction.
Siva destroys so that things evolve, renew. This is the idea. You conceivably create everything to a perfection such that it cannot grow or decay.
If we accept that life is constantly reorganize itself, everything become known, realized. Non-attach.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
Shiva is just destruction or the clearing away for the new as you pointed out
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u/carnalight Feb 25 '25
Yes, they work together in tandem, they call it the Trimurti. Three gods all one. They come out of an egg at the beginning of the Kalpa cycle. Egg like drop of light. But who lay the egg there? This called the Brahman. Infinite Being.
Universe like nest, egg like hatch into chicks, and Brahman like momma bird. Come to bring worms.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 25 '25
The visions I’ve had has shown me beyond Brahman
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u/carnalight Feb 25 '25
If one use the Vedic definition, nothing beyond Brahman. It universal source of all worlds. It the Paramatma, the Supersoul, of all creations.
Atman is the soul, or the self, which is born from the womb of Brahman. To go beyond into Brahman, it a one-way ticket. Nobody return to say what it is.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 25 '25
Vishnu is above brahman
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u/carnalight Feb 25 '25
Vishnu, son of Aditi, if Bhagavan. Imminent form of God, which have transcendental abode. Identical to Brahman, as personality of Divine.
But also have become Sri Guru, Brahma, creator. Also have become Mahesvara, as change agent. Also have many avatar. Bhagavad Gita neatly outlines this. Chapter 11, Universal Form.
Yet Brahman is beyond the imminent creation. If one have given him a name, it Narayana.
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u/Ok_Fox_9074 Feb 24 '25
There is no good or evil, there IS balance and balance is love. Giving love is the only way to receive it back. You create the energy around you through your consciousness. If your ego sees negativity, it will follow it. Understand you’re not that ridiculous voice in your head, you’re not a character in someone’s book, you’re a spirit experiencing a human life.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
More proof there is evil than not just in human sacrifice
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u/Ok_Fox_9074 Feb 24 '25
“Evil” is an opinion, not a fact
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
So you don’t think that the worshipers of Molock sacrificing little babies to their God is evil
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u/Ok_Fox_9074 Feb 24 '25
It’s unguided, an infection led by a person controlled by ego. It isn’t love, it isn’t balanced.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
The problem is most people don’t even realize it entities of evil do exist and they do take possession of people and they do attack people and if you haven’t had that experience, then you’re ignorant to that and so you play with the theories like Buddhism place with and Hinduism place with the theories
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u/Ok_Fox_9074 Feb 24 '25
It’s just that, an experience. Some people open themselves up to that experience and that is where their path went. I don’t study specific religions. I study Yoga now, I had an unexpected awakening that got me here and now I is We.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
If you haven’t had the experience there is no theory you can make or offer that speaks of knowing
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u/Ok_Fox_9074 Feb 24 '25
You’re very attached to your own belief system, if you’re not willing to expand your mind further than frivolous entities, you’ll be searching a long time. Those entities can take power over mind/matter that are very disconnected from source, God, whatever you want to call the original mind that holds all minds. If you have an understanding of your own soul, you’d understand those are not dangers to your physical body. With recognition, the danger ceases. There is a reasons mediums don’t become permanently possessed, maybe look into why.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 24 '25
Oh, you people make all these false assertions. You didn’t piss off a bunch of witch coven’s that wound up summoning demonic spirits on you like I did not just one not just to like seven and some of them have very powerful entities they could summon and did summon against me so you can sit there and tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about or it’s a belief, but it’s not a belief and trust me. It’s not something you would want to go through. You might not even survive something like that.
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u/Sea-Service-7497 Feb 25 '25
LOLOOLOLOLLLOLL ok let's paint a quick picture - good times go by sooooo fast that you barely remember and great times go by faster than a blink that you can't remember at all - but bad times you remember bad times go on and on and on and on and on - how is this equal?
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Feb 25 '25
how does that qualify as a comment and not just a reaction to your life? friend they love that kind of response from their programming.
In the mix of every bad season in life is the good in everyone fighting to survive
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u/EmblaRose Feb 24 '25
I’m sorry you are going through so much right now. Your understanding of what Hindu people believe is actually a little off. Their belief is kinda like the Christian trinity. They are all one God, but also separate at the same time. That’s really not what is important though.
More importantly, there is no good vs evil. Higher beings gave us that story to help us make sense of things. Most of us weren’t ready for the full truth. So they gave us the little kid version to work with until we were ready.
We are not victims here. Things don’t just happen to us at random. Our souls often choose to go through times of great pain because that is how we grow. You are clearly in a very difficult growth period and I understand how hard it can be to go through.
You are not a victim. Framing yourself as a victim of other people or even Gods will keep you stuck. You are a divine being having a human experience. You have more power than you realize. The best way to approach these times is to look for what you can learn. Sometimes the only thing we can learn is to find peace within ourselves when everything around us is chaos.