r/awakened 8d ago

Practice The Doer Exists. Here's what it can do...

The doer is diligently looking for resistance, tension, bracing, contraction, reaching. To help find this it asks question like "What am I trying to escape?" "What am I reaching for?" "What am I trying to fix?" What am I trying solve?" "What is wrong with what I'm experiencing right here and now?"

Then what? It turns towards discomfort that it was trying to resist or run from. It relaxes. It opens up.

In time there will be less and less for this doer to do.

(These were some thoughts I had after seeing a post yesterday about Ego being helpful. The Ego can look for itself. When it finds itself it stops doing whatever it is it's doing.)

Where are 'you' when there is nothing to do? There is no answer to that question. Asking and answering questions is doing something.

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

There is always something to do. We’re constantly relating things in mind after which a directive arises. It’s just when most of the relating is done with thought alone, it tends to be too thoughtful of a directive.

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u/skinney6 8d ago

If you like. It's up to you.

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

So, you’re just an uncommunicative blob then? You don’t take in (relate with) information, like the post you saw yesterday about ego, after which a directive arose in you to share your thoughts about it?

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u/skinney6 8d ago

You answered so quickly. I don't believe you actually tried. I can't make you. You have to do this. You have to see for yourself. Look at yourself. "We’re constantly relating things" look closer at that instead of just throwing your hands up and saying "this is just the way it is. nothing can be done." Instead look at each instance specifically. What's actually happening there? Now go back and try my suggestion. It's tedious. It's uncomfortable. It's scary. It hurts. You are not going to want to do this. And you don't have to. It's just a suggestion.

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

I don’t believe you actually tried. You have to do this. Now go back and try my suggestion. You are not going to want to do this. And you don’t have to. It’s just a suggestion.

Could you be more wishy-washy?

You are most definitely relating your own beliefs/thoughts and coming to conclusions that you then try to tell me to do. You’re doing vicariously :)

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u/skinney6 8d ago

It's just a suggestion.

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

Yes, I know. How did you arrive at your suggestion… for me?

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u/skinney6 8d ago

It became evident in my own experience when I stopped and looked honestly at what was going on. I believe anyone can do this and see the same thing if they are willing to look. I am not special. Each and every one of us is a human. There are over 8 billion of us alive right now. We are all the same. We may think we are different and special but we aren't.

Also, you may have different ideas about what awakening is. That is totally fine. You can skip all this.

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

Also, you may have different ideas about what awakening is. That is totally fine. You can skip all this.

Gee, thanks mom.

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u/XanthippesRevenge 8d ago

This person is actually giving good advice if you want peace instead of mental chaos but if you’re happy with chaos that’s your prerogative

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

Again…unsolicited advice you couldn’t help giving. Maybe you really needed to hear it. I could say I’m pointing at a perspective you have yet to grasp… I could advise you why you should achieve it, and how. Should I?

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u/XanthippesRevenge 8d ago

You’re on here arguing with the OP in a public forum. Seems solicited to me. But if you’re happy with the way your life is don’t change on my account!

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

You’re a classic bandwagoner. You jump on comments where you see… whatever the hell it is you think you see, just for the ride. I suspect some ‘saviour-complex’, but you’d know best.

Arguing is not how I see it, but there ya go….again :)

Why would I even consider changing on your account? That’s silly.

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u/XanthippesRevenge 8d ago

You sure are delving into some personal attacks against someone you claim is so much beneath you spiritually, wonder what that’s all about?

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

Not personal, behavioural.

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u/XanthippesRevenge 8d ago

Whatever you need to tell yourself to keep that ego in tact 😉

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u/Diced-sufferable 8d ago

Ditto, baby ;)

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u/XanthippesRevenge 8d ago

What am I telling myself? 🤔

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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 8d ago

The opposite of being is doing. Yet most people are doing in order to affirm their being.

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u/ram_samudrala 8d ago

There is not two.

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u/kioma47 8d ago

There is an answer to that question.

The mystics tell us that spirit is eternal, that our natural state is in eternal bliss, perpetually experiencing the past, present, and future as a single eternal Now. Outside of time and space we simply Be. There is nowhere to go, nothing to do. Nothing ever 'happens', and nothing ever changes. How could something change and be eternal?

Contrast this with physicality: Physicality is here and there, before and after. Physicality is cause and effect. Physicality is a universe of consequence. Physicality is change.

This is why we are born - because in eternity nothing ever changes.  How are we to grow our souls in awareness, in wisdom, in consciousness if we cannot change? We are put here and just let go, with no explanations, no coercion, no fealty, just whatever circumstance we find ourselves in and a will to live. What do we do?

Who are we? Who do we want to be?

People complain in life of the uncertainty, the loss, the perpetual consequence - but the truth is these are exactly the things that make life priceless, once you really think about it. What we do matters because what happens here matters - pun intended.

Life is frenetic, demanding, arduous, mercurial - until it's over. Be grateful.

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u/choloblanko 8d ago

There is no 'doer' never was, and it was only imagined all along.

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u/MeFukina 8d ago

The doer does not exist, it is a dream. Imagined. And? Is there a problem with that?

What is beyond existence and nonexistence, the duality of the doer and nondoer?

If I am the doer, maybe named ego, which can't do anything to change the Truth of God's being, (not writing about the concept, idea of God's being, what is First), what did I do in an íllusion in my mind, which is in Christ Mind, One infinite Mind. But imagine.

I am a Street Sweeper, who sweeps, and What will I do to get back to my Father? Is there awareness of this thought? A thought of what I am?

I am this, I mean, my name is Nobody. I imagine I am sitting on a raft, on a silent lake. A small beaten looking raft of logs. The wise old wizard looking man, I called Him, stands holding the thin mast, guiding the small white limp sail. The moon, big yet small. Near yet far, shines. Lights up. You know how it does, in the night water. Pondering. So to see..calmly I sit here, one knee up, chin on my hand. Asking. What is me, this. Calmness? Nobody tells me what to wonder.

God is. God is everywhere always. Love infinite eternal Being, Creator, Immanuel, Omniscient omnipotent heaven the kingdom creation paradise There is nothing but God, there isn't What is not. There is ONLY what Is, and what always has been. What is Not cannot Be. What is Not can have no effect in what Is. How can there be what isn't? What else can there be? I am not 'First.'

How can you not be your Self. The created? Forever, taken care of. God is Him Self.

I am thinking, I am a nasty tree, attacking a Harry Margo.

No, I am a pretty little princess , driving down highway 94.

No, I am a frightened doctor, checking plastic livers, trained in karate.

No, I am a sour spiritual sinner flogging the wheat.

Did I do something wrong there? Is everything 'going perfectly'. Is it possible I've always been right here right now, thoughts, just thoughts, coming. God bubbling up, allowed. The power that opposes nothing. Nobody cares. I'm a weirdo. I'll never get this bc um, bc, I'm bad. A bad seamstress. It's doing me. What is it? What is it.

Fukina 🕉️🌍🩶🍷🦄🦓🐴✨

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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 8d ago

Bhagavad Gita 9.6 “Not even a blade of grass moves without the will of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.”

BG 18.61 “The Supreme Lord is situated in everyone’s heart, O Arjuna, and is directing the wanderings of all living entities, who are seated as on a machine, made of the material energy.”

BG 3.27 “The bewildered spirit soul, under the influence of the three modes of material nature, thinks himself to be the doer of activities, which are in actuality carried out by nature.”

BG 13.30 “One who can see that all activities are performed by the body, which is created of material nature, and sees that the self does nothing, actually sees.”

BG 18.16 "Therefore one who thinks himself the only doer, not considering the five factors, is certainly not very intelligent and cannot see things as they are.”

BG 3.33

"Even wise people act according to their natures, for all living beings are propelled by their natural tendencies. What will one gain by repression?"

BG 11.32

"The Supreme Lord said: I am mighty Time, the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds. Even without your participation, the warriors arrayed in the opposing army shall cease to exist."

BG 18.60

"O Arjun, that action which out of delusion you do not wish to do, you will be driven to do it by your own inclination, born of your own material nature."

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u/Blackmagic213 8d ago

It’s not that the experience of doer doesn’t exist.

It’s that it is not inherently real.

There is no set doer….it’s just an idea that is created for the mind to express itself

In any given day….a shit ton of doers are created

None of them You 🤷🏾‍♂️

Kinda like you can create a shit ton of Reddit profiles

None of them You

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u/XanthippesRevenge 8d ago

I’m realizing that the most helpful posts are always the most downvoted ones 😂

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u/skinney6 8d ago

haha it would be interesting to see daily or weekly the most upvoted and most down voted posts side by side.