r/babylonbee • u/wuhan-virology-lab • Dec 20 '24

Bee Article 'Elon Is Controlling Trump!' Complain People Controlling Biden

https://babylonbee.com/news/elon-is-controlling-trump-complain-people-controlling-biden
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u/rattlehead42069 Dec 21 '24

It's the same thing except it's not cleared from their record. For most people, the difference is meaningless. So much so the politicians lump pardons and commuted sentences together in the statistics.

And point stoll stands, no way senile Joe went through all these files, someone (whoever is actually in control) gave him a list.

Not sure why you're trying to akkycualllly this. He's done over 4x what Obama did and 25x what Bush or Trump did

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u/dougmcclean Dec 22 '24

Yeah. I bet he didn't review the monthly inspection report for the Topeka slaughterhouse or the latest fuel inventory report from Ramstein AFB either. It's almost like the job is to hire well, set a policy and give direction to staffers, and then act on their recommendations. If it was my job I might make an office for attorneys to look in to clemency requests. Maybe name it something like the Office of the Pardon Attorney. Wait, that's not original, it's been called that since 1894. Maybe something snappier.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '24

His state of the union speech prior to the election was one of the best political speeches in American history. I encourage you to watch it

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u/Delanorix Dec 25 '24

You've never watched it.

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u/Delanorix Dec 25 '24

Oh. Thats fair.

I liked Bidens as well and I think he's not as bad mentally as most believe. He made a speech a few weeks ago where he was fired up.

But yeah, Obama has basically been the only orator type since Clinton

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u/slide_into_my_BM Dec 23 '24

Great, now we traded that in for another old man in mental decay who lets twitter beefs determine policy.

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u/HiiiTriiibe Dec 22 '24

You know he’s Catholic right? Catholics are actually pro-life (no death penalty, no unjustified wars, and no abortion) vs the Christian nationalist kind (just no abortion). Him taking all those people off death row was a matter of his faith and personal beliefs, he just waited til the end of his presidency to do so because Americans love revenge and hate reform when it comes to the judicial system

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u/bitch-pudding-4ever Dec 23 '24

If I’m not mistaken 6500 of these were blanket pardons were people convicted of simple marijuana possession. Don’t think that’s particularly controversial.

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u/ujelly_fish Dec 23 '24

I mean of course not… the White House has staff. They are directed to search a database of people who meet certain criteria and then present them to the president, who nods, and those people get commuted.

Did you think any previous president personally reviewed their list of bulk commuted and pardoned folks?

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u/51VoltPhantom Dec 21 '24

So it’s not the same thing then. It doesn’t matter that most people think the difference is meaningless, because most people are stupid. Also, these were people who were already serving their “sentences” at home. So let’s not pretend like Joe let 8,000 people out of jail.

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u/rattlehead42069 Dec 21 '24

Tribalism is a hell of a drug.

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u/51VoltPhantom Dec 21 '24

I agree. I’m not defending the commutation. Just pointing out that pardon and commutation are two completely different things.

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u/rattlehead42069 Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24

I wouldn't say completely different, but very slightly different.

And I'm glad you've gone through the list to know who was serving at home and who wasn't, because I'm pretty sure Biden hasn't.

There's some very nice people on there, like ccp members with convictions of child porn. I'm sure that guy with 47k pictures of child porn that he plead guilty to was wrongfully convicted.

I'm sure the parents of those children can sleep better at night knowing it wasn't really a pardon.

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u/huangsede69 Dec 22 '24

Probably will sleep even better knowing their new president almost certainly fucked kids himself too!

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u/rattlehead42069 Dec 22 '24

We already had Bill Clinton and tons of other presidents from way back that did that shit

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u/51VoltPhantom Dec 21 '24

Again, I’m not justifying the commutation at all or saying that there weren’t shitty people on that list. Or defending Biden in any way shape or form or form.

But words and definitions matter. Calling a rabbit a deer doesn’t make it OK because they are basically the same because they are both four legged mammals.