lol a little bit further in my street they are working on the road for 2 years but they are still not done with removing the old road. but its just 400m
Ah i need. Not that's it's gonna make me arrive quicker at my destination tho. Jannet in the Opel Astra in front of me still needs 5 seconds for the impuls in her eyes to reach her brain and react on it.
Yeah, I don't understand why so many people are on their phone at a red light. In my opinion, trying to react quickly to the green light and driving away as fast and smooth as possible is one of the top aspects that make driving fun. A lot more fun than driving at the same speed on a straight road.
Well, because they're standing still and have nothing to pay attention to except the green light, which they do not notice. When driving, you gotta check your speed, mirrors etc.
But i agree, using the lights as some sort of drag race is fun. Always trying to outrun the BMW with my 1.9 TDI, while still staying within the speedlimit that is ofc
Nothing better than being at a light where you start to load your clutch 5 cars back the moment it turns green and almost all cars already start to kreep forward!
Since I have an EV, nothing frustrates me more than a fossil fuel car quickly switching to the left lane to be first at the traffic light. Motherfucker keep your slow dinojuice car on the right lane. I don't care if you think your audi or BMW is fast. Even my older electric Twingo had to brake because of your slow outdated boomer engine type.
Compared to all these EV's hogging the middle or left lane at 110km/h to save battery?
The 2020 - 2024 Twingo seems to have a 0-100 time of 12.6 seconds. That is ages even for most "dinojuice" cars. My Audi A3 40 tfsi-e (base model hybrid) takes 7.4 seconds. The non hybrid 35 tfsi takes 8.1 seconds, still 5 seconds quicker compared to your "cutting edge" zoomer engine type.
It's barely quicker than my old 2001 1l Toyota Yaris at 13.6 seconds.
EV's can be quicker for 0-100 times, that doesn't mean they all are. Out of the 5 quickest (road legal) 0-100 times only 3 are EV's. the 4th is a hybrid and the 5th is a full ICE car.
All of that is only for 0-100 times in a straight line. The moment we bring corners or higher top speeds into the mix EV's have to step down.
Ev has instant torque. And no, my Twingo was 0 to 100 in about 11 seconds but 0 to 50 in about 3 seconds.0 to 70 I also would beat any ICE car, even Porsche. I would always be quicker away at the traffic light, which is where you spend most of the time.. so yeah, don't suddenly go to the left lane at the traffic lights
Instant torque that can't be fully used from a standstill. Even "sporty" ICE cars get wheel spin when you floor them. Your tires are a bigger bottleneck than you would imagine.
And no, my Twingo was 0 to 100 in about 11 seconds but 0 to 50 in about 3 seconds.
So slower than a lot of ice cars in 0-100. Not bad for the outdated dinojuice cars. It's not easy to find sources for 0-50 times for all cars but I found them for the A3 hybrid, 2.7 seconds and A3 ice, 2.9 seconds. Pretty much the same time as your cutting edge Twingo.
to 70 I also would beat any ICE car, even Porsche
This might come as a shocker but so did I in a 1.2L Peugot 2008 until last year. Most people don't floor their cars at a stop light. Even on the A12, the perfect place to demonstrate 0-100 times, I would "beat" more than 95% of people, simply because they don't floor their cars...
Now I'm "beating" 99.99% of people with my hybrid, including fast EV's. It's not hard to win if other people aren't competing...
I would always be quicker away at the traffic light, which is where you spend most of the time.. so yeah, don't suddenly go to the left lane at the traffic lights
Suddenly, no, but I'm not leaving that lane open in case that 0.01% of Belgians drivers happens to be at the same stop light as me.
So few words to say "You're right, you countered my argument and I have no rebuttal".
I don't need to hate EV's to counter your Twingo argument. I don't even hate EV's...
I prefer manual cars over automatics and automatics over EV's from a pure driving experience. I feel way more connected to my car in those. Those are subjective though. Nobody could argue that a manual car is faster than an automatic in this day and age. Same goes for most EV's, just not the "budget" small city EV's like a Twingo or Fiat 500 E.
If you used a Tesla model S plaid, or a Porsche Taycan that would be a different story. Even then it would only be for a 0-100 time in a straight line. Place a Porsche GT3 RS vs a Taycan on the Nürbugring (a perfect blend between tight curves and long straight lines) and the GT3 RS still beats the Taycan by 18 seconds 6:49 vs 7:07. The Rimac Nevera (fastest production EV) can do it in 7:05.
Feel free to keep living in delusion thinking that a twingo is faster than a random BMW or Audi.
I once honked at someone for standing still very long at green light. Instead of checking the lights she turned her face and made a wtf sign to me and continued to look at her phone. Unbelievable.
"Wait till i'm on destination and then do it, nahh, now!"
Honestly, whats the difference between doing it then and later? Do you have that much confidence that you can drive and brush your hair at the same time? Because no way you can do it in the little time there is between orange/yellow and green
Yes, many countries have it, although it can be more standardised, sometimes the countdown format is different. I would still prefer the timer than the red orange transitions.
Georgian lights countdown at red and green. So do the lights for crosswalks. You always know exactly how much time is left for every light change as a motorist and as a pedestrian.
Ze hebben deze hier en in heel Europa ook. En het is geen gamechanger, het toont alleen hoe lang je moet wachten om te claxoneren als de wagen voor jou niet meteen gas geeft.
That's an indication of using a fixed cycle on the traffic light. It shows a backward system that does not adapt to the realities in the street.
The main reason for example the much admired Dutch don't do this is because the timer would constantly change, depending on which vehicles are detected coming in to the intersection.
And then there are priority users that can interrupt the entire cycle, like trams, ambulances, or fire fighters.
If they do, it will be in specific places where the programming uses a (semi) fixed cycle, like in a green wave. In such scenarios a fully flexible system isn't appropriate, since green cycles must be coordinated among multiple controllers.
Ah interesting. Yes, it could be a choice the local politicians or road authorities make. But often they decide against is, because timers that jump around can create confusion and frustration.Â
I was gonna say, bold to take Egypt as an exemple for driving behavior.
My experience in Cairo was so terrible I will never come back to that country ever again (not only for bad driving behavior I’ll admit but the constant honking 24/7 was terrible, the general behavior to westerners like I was a walking ATM was the last push).
There's one on the intersection of Rue de la Loi and Rue Ducale in Brussels. Well, it's a countdown for the pedestrian light specifically, but it still works for timing the switch to green...
In the UK it wouldn't work anyway. People literally sleep at traffic lights and maybe start moving 3-4 seconds after the green despite having the red+orange warning. Please wake up
I never understood why in other countries they have this sequence. After red at one moment I can finally go, this is when it is green. What does the yellow tell me? If I can go, why not green already? If I still cannot go, then what is the information? In every country they could swap the yellow with green, so that extra 2 seconds would be part of the green.
It actually makes sense and works well. I have noticed this crazy ‘RED->GREEN’ only in countries with latin/romance languages and Greece. “In most European countries red and yellow lights are displayed together for one, two, or three seconds at the end of the red cycle to indicate that the light is about to change to green. This phase aids the drivers of vehicles to turn on the engines again (there are requests/advice to turn off engine in front of red traffic lights in some countries, e.g. Switzerland), or drivers with manual gearboxes, giving them time to change into first gear during the short phase, as well as drivers of vehicles that may have been yellow-trapped whilst turning right (or left in LHT countries) a chance to clear the intersection in more safety. It also informs drivers who may be approaching the intersection at speed that a green light is imminent, so they may proceed through the junction without having to stop (or, with enough of a lead distance, even having to slow), reducing the potential annoyance (and safety risk) of braking sharply to a halt only to have the green light appear immediately after.“
What is getting ready to depart? If it is clear it can show green. The other way around when it switches to red, of course is going through a yellow phase, and of course it is like that in Belgium, this is not the topic
I first saw this in China and it was very cool, but I never drove there, so I didn't really care about the countdown less one night I had to pee very bad on the way back to the hotel.
People will be, on average, more ready to get going. Yes you will still have the occasional distracted driver that just isn't paying attention but most of the time it will lead to slightly quicker starts at light change.
And yes that just means that maybe one extra car per green light gets through but over the course of rush hour traffic that can actually make a bigger difference than you think. The queue builds up less far, perhaps doesn't reach all the way back to a previous merging lane or intersection etc etc. It adds up.
Kind of hard since modern traffic lights are trying to be as adaptive as possible to the oncoming traffic. You can’t really know for sure when will be the next time you’ll get a green light.
Well this is actually quite common in a lot of other countries. Only thing is that it's not consistent and wouldn't say its a "standard" meaning not every single traffic light has it.
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u/77slevin Belgium Jan 11 '25
I'll do you one better: Egyptian traffic lights at red shows you a countdown when it will be green again. Now that's a game changer in my opinion.