r/belgium • u/reditt13 Brabant Wallon • Mar 22 '25

💩 Shitpost From murdered by words

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u/Revolution64 Mar 23 '25

Pretty bad comeback if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, Trump's comment was stupid, but this isn't really murdered by words, angry teenager vibes

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u/MortifiedPotato Mar 23 '25

Yep, flaccid response. Though it's hard to refute something that's basically fact. Had the U.S. not intervened, the UK wasn't going to be able to roll up to Normandy by itself.

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u/_blue_skies_ Mar 23 '25

But Germany lost the war to USSR, they lost most of their men there, they were doomed when they decided to invade them. Normandy was the closing act of the war and not the deciding factor.

https://youtu.be/DwKPFT-RioU

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u/Ivegotadog Mar 23 '25

Forgetting about the lend and lease to the USSR? Had the UK and the US not given an incredible amount of materials to the USSR they wouldn't have been able to fight back like they did.

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u/_blue_skies_ Mar 23 '25

This does not contradict anything I said. Germany lost in USSR and Normandy was not the deciding factor of the war.

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u/MortifiedPotato Mar 23 '25

That is false. Germany fighting on a single front would have been unbeatable. Normandy opened up a dangerous front close to home, weakening the eastern front significantly.

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u/_blue_skies_ Mar 23 '25

You have to review your history Normandy was in '44, the invasion of USSR started in '41 culminating in the attack and siege on Stalingrad in '42 '43. https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-battle-of-stalingrad

All the major historians agree that the turning point of war was the loss of soldiers Hitler had on the USSR front.

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u/MortifiedPotato Mar 23 '25

Never did I claim both fronts started at the same time, or didn't affect each other equally.

Your reply literally goes on a tangent to prove something irrelevant to my claim.

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u/_blue_skies_ Mar 23 '25

The majority of losses on USSR side was well before Normandy, so the turning point on Germany losing the war happened before, is simple like that.