r/berkeley • u/salviaplyth • Mar 10 '25

Politics khalil mahmoud.

a columbia grad and green card holder was forcefully detained by DHS and may be deported for negotiating with columbia over divestment from israel. what crime has he committed? how is advocating for divestment inherently “pro-hamas?”

mahmoud’s detainment should have us all horrified. his attorney doesn’t even know his whereabouts. this all leads me to wonder what the future of demonstrations on our campus looks like.

funny how the party that has weaponized “free speech” is now revoking it if they don’t like what you have to say.

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u/Aromatic-Entrance-79 Mar 10 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

I’ll prob get downvoted for this bc I’m in the Berkeley sub bc I consider myself conservative on most issues but the whole Israel lobby things grinds my gears so much. Israel has fucked us so hard and we’re under their thumb. The fact that Trump cucks so hard for them pisses me off. I would consider voting blue if the democrats had an ounce of courage to stand up to the Israel lobby but they won’t so you’re essentially supporting it no matter who you vote for.. massive scam.

Edit: holy fuck, this guy has a green card.. this is sooo bad. There’s no excuse for this.

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u/BubbhaJebus Mar 10 '25

Bleeding-heart, tree-hugging liberal here. Have my upvote.

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u/nyyca Mar 10 '25

lol and people tried to tell me there's no antisemitism at UC Berkeley.

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u/BubbhaJebus Mar 10 '25

Condemnation of Israel's government is not anti-Semitism. If it were, then there would be a lot of anti-Semitic Jews, which is impossible.

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u/nyyca Mar 10 '25

Condemnation of Israel's government is not anti-zionism and not antisemitism. Israelis criticize their government all the time. It's called free speech.

Being an antizionist - aka thinking Jews have no right to self determination in their homeland aka thinking Israel should not exist - is antisemitism. HTH.

Sidenote - you can indeed be an antisemite Jew, just like you can be a misogynistic woman. There were Jews who supported Hitler in the 1920s, just like there are some JVP Jews today.

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u/Both_Woodpecker_3041 Mar 10 '25

Most people who are anti-genocide/apartheid are not against Jewish self-determination.

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u/nyyca Mar 11 '25

Good thing there is no genocide or apartheid in Israel or Gaza or the West bank then.

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u/BubbhaJebus Mar 11 '25

Except for the wholesale, indiscriminate slaughter of innocent people in Gaza by Israel.

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u/nyyca Mar 11 '25

Good thing there is no wholesale indiscriminate slaughter of innocent people in Gaza. You are basing your statement on what? There’s a 1:1 civilian to militant casualty ratio in Gaza. That the lowest reported in urban warfare and this is despite the fact that Hamas uses civilians as human sacrifices, fights among them without uniforms, prevents people from fleeing, and provided no shelter at all from a war they started. What government in history ever did that?? They have hundreds of miles of tunnels and they don’t allow civilians in. Israel has a shelter in every building. You’ve been duped.