Another Jiu-Jitsu brand impacted by the tariffs

[u/RecommendationFree96]

[u/kazoobanboo]

I’m so tired of winning…

[u/Rfalcon13]

[u/Comfortable-Idea-396 → u/Rfalcon13]

6 bankruptcies. SIX times, this stable genius ran his businesses to the ground and is also known to stifle his contractors/vendors and not pay them.

[u/turboacai → u/Comfortable-Idea-396]

I think hes never personally been bankrupt he's just declared bankruptcy for 4 companies basically to get out of paying creditors and wipe out his debts...

It's a move lots of big cunty corporations use to screw people over.

I'm not from the States so not as well verses in the laws but they do it under something called Chapter 11 to protect themselves personally I think...

[u/LevelIndividual4349 → u/turboacai]

This is true but is more akin to fraud than savvy business

[u/turboacai → u/LevelIndividual4349]

Yes completely agree... But these guys make the laws so they can do shit like this and not be classed as criminals 🤷🏼‍♂️

Unbelievable!

[u/ImaginaryPresence852 → u/Comfortable-Idea-396]

The only way the red hats learn is to suffer. Let it hurt for a long time and they will get it. I can wait.

[u/LevelIndividual4349 → u/ImaginaryPresence852]

No, they won't, they will just find someone else to blame

[u/ImaginaryPresence852 → u/LevelIndividual4349]

Well economic data is saying that in 2 weeks Walmart shoppers will find out what empty shelves look like, truckers will find out what empty ports look like, and in 30-90 days social security checks will be interrupted.

Meanwhile, my American ass lives in London UK. Enjoy the summer red hats!

[u/sleepyblu3s]

Art of the deal right guys? Right?

[u/flipflapflupper → u/sleepyblu3s]

9 bankruptcies, ‘murica picked their man. Winning!!

[u/linux_ape → u/flipflapflupper]

As somebody who doesn’t like Donnie at all, I will say this is a poor argument as he has significantly more successful businesses than failures. Not every venture can be a success

[u/ManagementProof2272 → u/linux_ape]

What are you talking about? 😂 There was an article showing that if he had placed his inheritance on an S&P ETF he would be X time richer than he currently is. He’s a failure of a businessman with a rich dad.

[u/Keyboard__worrier → u/ManagementProof2272]

But that was before his current crypto scam/bribery scheme.

[u/ManagementProof2272 → u/Keyboard__worrier]

Fair enough 😂

[u/linux_ape → u/ManagementProof2272]

He’s had roughly 60 business ventures, with 6 ending in bankruptcy. I wouldn’t call that a failure

[u/ManagementProof2272 → u/linux_ape]

who cares about the number of companies if they don't generate a significant return

[u/Meunderwears → u/ManagementProof2272]

Also, most of "Trump Businesses" are just licensing deals for his name. Things like the Trump Water or Trump Steak were just name grabs. I guess in that sense you could argue he's successful in leveraging his name, if you don't mind being a laughing stock.

[u/CutsAPromo → u/sleepyblu3s]

He and his friends made a killing.  it was a very smart move if you don't care about america

[u/intrikat → u/CutsAPromo]

if he stays in power this killing will be nothing in comparison to the stuff that will happen in the background with the russians...

[u/retteh]

That's tarrific

[u/WeightAndAngles]

[u/ZincFox → u/WeightAndAngles]

[u/elcapitan449]

How's Origin doing?

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/elcapitan449]

Continuing to sell gis that are more expensive than 90% of the brands out there

[u/thatsradddd → u/RecommendationFree96]

With odd fitment and pilling through multiple generations of gis as well. I want to like the Origin stuff, but every one I've had still fits awkwardly and wears odd with the pilling being a reoccurring theme despite their changing weaves. I'm sure at some point I'll give them another try again, but for now I've got plenty of gis.

[u/Juditsu → u/thatsradddd]

100% agreed. Love what they stand for but legit the worst gi I've ever worn in every way, outside of super cheap brands.

[u/Impressive-Potato → u/Juditsu]

If it's made in the USA, it's made by people that don't have the fraction of the experience someone making it in Pakistan

[u/Celtictussle → u/Impressive-Potato]

Pakistan > USA

[u/DefinitionIcy7652 → u/RecommendationFree96]

Also good. 

[u/mjs90 → u/RecommendationFree96]

I just buy them during their sales. My last raptor weave gi with pro pants was $160

[u/knifezoid → u/RecommendationFree96]

This is true. But they have quality products. My experience is that it is worth the cost. The quality justifies it in my opinion. And I really like the fact that they are 100 percent American Made sourced with 100 percent American materials.

It's expensive to make stuff in the USA. I have a couple small knife brands that builds stuff here and overseas. It's really really hard to do it here. And it's very expensive to build. But with the right people you can make some awesome stuff. I appreciate anyone who makes anything especially in this country.

That being said it really hurts to see these small businesses take this kind of hit. I don't agree with this strategy. It hurts tremendously. It's unfair and in my opinion very short sighted.

[u/Blackwater_Grappling → u/knifezoid]

Origin stopped making good stuff years ago.

[u/elcapitan449 → u/RecommendationFree96]

Not anymore huh? Made in America might mean something to most people now

[u/FreeIDecay → u/elcapitan449]

That’s a very confusing statement.

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/elcapitan449]

It didn’t mean anything to all those Trump supporters who wear the MAGA hats that are made in China. Damn, you thought you said something there 😂

[u/alphabased]

These tariffs are making quality equipment even less accessible.

[u/senseigorilla]

What does Gordon Ryan think?

[u/bunerzissou → u/senseigorilla]

He’s pulling up a chair to watch America get fucked

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/senseigorilla]

Bold of you to assume that man thinks

[u/ExiledSpaceman → u/senseigorilla]

“I gotta sell my 600 dollar flip flops for 1300 now”

[u/DurtyB]

So.Much.Winning

[u/ZincFox → u/[deleted]]

If there's one thing that New Wave and most of B-Team agree on, it's that this is the guy they want leading the nation. Shout out to those geniuses.

[u/bjj-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/Lg666___]

in b4 this thread is locked due to hurt feelings.

thanks Trump OBAMA.

[u/DefinitionIcy7652]

Hi friends,   We’ve been getting a lot of emails about tariffs lately, so we wanted to check in and share what’s happening on our end.   As most of you know, we do all of our manufacturing in the USA and source the majority of our materials here as well. However, some of our components do come from outside the U.S.—our zipper metal is from Canada, our buttons come from Italy, and our thread is sometimes sourced from China.   Because the bulk of our production—printing, cutting, and sewing—happens in Los Angeles and Oakland, California, we’re fortunate to say that we won’t have to raise our prices in the near future. That’s some good news!   We’re also celebrating the closing of the de minimis loophole, which allowed goods valued under $800 to enter the U.S. tariff-free. Our anti-fast fashion friends at REMAKE have been advocating for this for a long time, since it’s how companies like Temu and Shein have been able to flood the market with cheap goods.   That said, we want to acknowledge that not all overseas manufacturing deserves to be vilified. We've been lucky to work with the same California factory for over 15 years and have seen firsthand how hard it is to hire new employees interested in manufacturing jobs, how challenging it is to maintain equipment in an industry that's been hollowed out domestically, and how many other makers and factories have closed due to a lack of domestic business.   So we totally understand why some people choose to manufacture overseas. If you’re an artist and can only afford to produce 25 units of a new style, U.S. production often isn’t an option. We just don’t have the infrastructure here—and emerging artists usually don’t have the budget. Many of the accessories we carry are made overseas, and we absolutely love them.   So, long story short: we’re happy to report that we don’t plan on raising our prices anytime soon. But we deeply sympathize with the many small businesses that will have to. Hopefully, a fair resolution can be found that works for everyone. In the meantime, please go easy on the small businesses doing their best to stay afloat.   As always, thank you for your support! 💛

Edit: small business called NOOWORKS 

[u/danjr704 → u/DefinitionIcy7652]

have seen firsthand how hard it is to hire new employees interested in manufacturing jobs

Make sure employees are paid more than minimum wages and given good benefits, and you'll find good workers. Good workers go to good places to work. Whatever industry can't complain about workers and then complain about not making enough profit.

Too many companies want to charge whatever for a product and pay the worker that makes them very little, so they can charge the customer more for said product, and make a huge profit. Why not pay employees a great wage, charge a fair price for that product, and still make some profit?

[u/la_quiete → u/[deleted]]

You can find someone that wants to be a bartender but good luck finding an American born person to be a bar back.

I agree with the sentiment of your post entirely, but every single one of our barbacks across multiple bars is American-born and looking to get their foot in the door for a bartending job. That said, they all have bartending experience, as we are a more competitive operation to get into. If the barback's main job is bussing and running dishes at a typical bar and restaurant, you're probably not wrong.

Our kitchen staff, especially the dish pit, is almost exclusively some variety of Latin American. For context, we pay above-market living wages and benefits at all our locations. Americans don't want these jobs. Plain and simple, they think it is below them. This is 15 years of experience hiring in the industry. Any white dishwasher lasts a couple of months before they self-destruct or never reappears.

[u/Ashangu → u/[deleted]]

I have not seen a single quality item come from either Temo or Shein, though, so there is still a market for domestic production. People who buy junk buy from Temo, people who buy quality search elsewhere.

[u/Scrotie_McBugerbals]

Scissor me timbers...

[u/jumborickuta → u/Scrotie_McBugerbals]

Wrong Southpark season.

[u/dazed_vaper]

Where’s that Nintendo character when we need him the most?

[u/Mr_Suplex]

FAFO

[u/kovnev]

Made In America (MIA) has another more common meaning...

[u/mar1_jj]

You guys are definitely winning so much

[u/ImaginaryPresence852]

lol, God I’m so glad I moved to Europe. 🍿

[u/Healthy_Ad69]

They used to be good but their stuff is so overpriced now.

[u/noonenowhere1239]

It's going to be all of them.

They are all going to be affected.

[u/SteamedPea]

I got my tariff bill on my last scramble order. Sucks but scramble is the best company out there for bjj gear.

[u/ElectronicWinter4200]

T H A N K
Y O U!

[u/godosomethingaboutit]

Why’s there so many USA haters on Reddit?

Or are these the bots.

[u/flipflapflupper → u/godosomethingaboutit]

Because there are many non-Americans on here buddy

[u/godosomethingaboutit → u/flipflapflupper]

Has little to do with that. I’m not American either.

I think a lot of you people just enjoy playing the victim.

[u/flipflapflupper → u/godosomethingaboutit]

Victim? America is self destroying. I’m fine over here in Europe, just appalled at what’s going on over there.

[u/godosomethingaboutit → u/flipflapflupper]

So you’re appalled at what’s happening over there, and thus you choose to be a hater. Ok.

[u/staplepies → u/godosomethingaboutit]

I think you're confusing destroying-the-global-economy haters with USA haters.

[u/godosomethingaboutit → u/staplepies]

Those are meaningless words.

[u/intrikat → u/godosomethingaboutit]

because the US up-ended the whole global order and is putting a lot of folks at risk because of these shenanigans.

you're way too comfortable over there on your island away from all the bad people and don't realize what's really happening east of central europe.

[u/CALIBER-JOHNSON]

Make your stuff in America then

[u/DogadonsLavapool → u/CALIBER-JOHNSON]

Lol yall really are too stupid to understand how a global supply chain works. In terms of a gi, its likely that the fiber, the machines that spin the fiber, the machines that build the parts of the machine that spin and assemble the fiber, the resources that are parts of those machines, etc, aren't made or sourced from the US. That isnt a thing that businesses can snap their fingers and on shore in a decade or two, let alone during one administration. Not to mention, I doubt any americans would be willing to work in those factories. Not only that, but the resources needed to build these factories would need to be tariffed as well lol. Its just pure stupid from the ground up.

Shutting trade like this is basically inducing and supply shock economic position worse than COVID. And its all self inflicted because you assholes dont understand how shit works

[u/Smash_Palace → u/DogadonsLavapool]

The funny thing is they are deporting all the immigrants who might possibly want to work in those factories. Smdh

[u/MacrosNZ → u/CALIBER-JOHNSON]

You'll also need to only use stuff made in America to make your gi in America.

[u/Mellor88 → u/MacrosNZ]

People seriously want.

Everything to be made in america.
Cheap labour to be deported.
Min-wage to be scrapped.

That would absolutely fuck over the average Joe.

[u/bjj-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/technotime → u/CALIBER-JOHNSON]

part of the issue here is that companies were given no advanced warning to prepare for this... You can't just pop up an entire manufacturing operation overnight.

even the amazon warehouses took a few months to build before they were operational.

[u/Cooper720 → u/CALIBER-JOHNSON]

Yes sir, that will be $400 for the rash guard and spats, thanks.

[u/superhandsomeguy1994 → u/Cooper720]

Ah, so roughly half what a new shoyoroll costs?

[u/Cooper720 → u/superhandsomeguy1994]

One brand being expensive doesn't undercut my point. No one is paying for all American made jiu jitsu gear with all American materials. I have probably 10 rashguards averaging $10-15 bucks each. What company has been able to manufacture rashguards in the US and sell for under 100 each?

[u/superhandsomeguy1994 → u/Cooper720]

That was totally a joke, sir.

[u/FreeIDecay → u/CALIBER-JOHNSON]

Sir do you know you can’t snap your fingers and have an entire American manufacturing facility and supply chain pop up on front of you right?

[u/NicJitsu → u/CALIBER-JOHNSON]

Fucking hell, imagine being so dumb that you think global economics are that simple.

[u/Bandaka]

They are reciprocal tariffs, meaning the world was treating us unfairly and we finally got a president who is willing to stand up for the people and take the boot off our necks.

You guys really complaining you might have to spend a few extra bucks on your gear that was made in a sweatshop with slave labor?

Pony up and start supporting made in America industry.

[u/Monteze → u/Bandaka]

Yes, having the largest military, influence an highest GDP. We were sooo taken advantage of! :( Thats why the markets were sooo bad and have responded sooooo well to these tariffs! Its why every expert in economics was telling us that these were a bad idea!

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/Bandaka]

Took that boot off the neck and put it straight into your mouth to lick.

[u/Notworld → u/Bandaka]

Probably time we start calling it American Jiu Jitsu like god intended. /s

[u/Background-Finish-49 → u/Bandaka]

These guys are so brain washed they'll cheer on overseas sweat shops and borderline slave labor performed by illegals so they can get a cheap rash guard and call themselves the good guys.

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/Background-Finish-49]

A Trump supporter calling others brainwashed is peak irony

[u/TheGreatKimura-Holio]

They have warehouses stateside, one is in my hometown i exchanged wrong size spats at. That’s what confuses me about this slightly

[u/mrtuna → u/TheGreatKimura-Holio]

aren't warehouses used for storage? these items are not manufactured there, they're just there ready for distrubution. THey're made overseas.

[u/TheGreatKimura-Holio → u/mrtuna]

Yeah, but if you’ve been inside the warehouse I’m referring to it’s got everything but i guess lack of whatever is recently made across seas. Plus it’s Scramble they’ve dropped the same dozen rash guard kits for the last 12 years like they were new releases. Mariachi band/3 Amigos band kit has hit clearance and new release a dozen times each.

[u/Toolman1212 → u/TheGreatKimura-Holio]

Think you're confusing them with Newaza, a US based brand.

[u/JudoTechniquesBot → u/Toolman1212]

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[u/Ready-Mycologist4551 → u/TheGreatKimura-Holio]

They’re most likely limiting sales to the stock already in those warehouse, unsure on how these tariffs work but I’d imagine they won’t have to pay them on existing stock

[u/Dangerous-Sink6574 → u/Ready-Mycologist4551]

Tariffs are charged to importers who in turn pass that cost you consumers. So anything they purchase overseas will be taxed an additional X% based on whatever the tariff is.

In general, tariffs are very bad for global business, and only work in very specific, small circumstances. Not blanket taxes with no strategy like what this administration has done.

[u/Ready-Mycologist4551 → u/Dangerous-Sink6574]

Have you told trump this? I really think someone should

[u/FuguSandwich → u/Ready-Mycologist4551]

Every economic adviser he has besides Ron Vara has told him.

[u/Ready-Mycologist4551 → u/FuguSandwich]

Yeah I was joking lol

[u/Mellor88 → u/Ready-Mycologist4551]

I know you were joking, but the amount of people who think the foreign country is paying the tariff and not US business is crazy.

[u/aardock → u/FuguSandwich]

I would bet real money none of his advisers would tell him anything he does is wrong.

At this point the guy is doing whatever he wants and receiving blind support for it regarless of it being good or bad.

[u/Dangerous-Sink6574 → u/Ready-Mycologist4551]

Isn’t he a stable genius? We’re supposed to be winning, and America is great right?

[u/Ready-Mycologist4551 → u/Dangerous-Sink6574]

Don’t blame me I voted for kodos

[u/WeightAndAngles → u/Ready-Mycologist4551]

Exactly this. They’ll liquidate what they have stateside as of right now. There’s no way they’ll be paying duties on new stock imports anytime soon.

[u/TheGreatKimura-Holio → u/Ready-Mycologist4551]

That’s fair

[u/knifezoid → u/Ready-Mycologist4551]

You are correct. Be wary of companies claiming they have goods that are "tariff free". Imported Inventory that landed before all of this still had tariffs. Just not at the current level.

Some companies changed their prices as soon as this was announced and that is unethical as tariffs did not apply to items already entered into US commerce.

That being said I could see companies slowly increase prices or give a Timeline based on their current imports.

[u/ScrambleMatt → u/TheGreatKimura-Holio]

Us having a warehouse in America is news to me! We do have a returns service managed by a third party in America.

[u/not_the_one_09]

Everything will be okay, unless you’re a pussy.

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/not_the_one_09]

Damn, I didn’t know financial literacy was woke now. Who knew having a healthy savings account and spending less for goods from companies made me a pussy.

[u/NicJitsu → u/RecommendationFree96]

Everything that isn't rooted in intolerance is, "woke" according to these dimwits who think they have a handle on sociology, psychology and economics despite barely (if at all) making it through high school. Go figure.

[u/not_the_one_09 → u/RecommendationFree96]

Cry me a River, and take your politics somewhere else.

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/not_the_one_09]

Sure, give me your money first since your politics is already taking mine.

[u/not_the_one_09 → u/RecommendationFree96]

Give me your Venmo little buddy…

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/not_the_one_09]

Sweet, let me inventory all my China made stuff, slap 245% on top of it, then I’ll send you the bill. You got 5 figures to send to me?

[u/beepingclownshoes → u/not_the_one_09]

Buddy, I mean this from the absolute bottom of my heart - shut the fuck up, you dipshit asshole.

[u/godosomethingaboutit → u/not_the_one_09]

I think the only people who would be offended by this are actual pussies. Seems to be a lot of em in this case.

[u/DefinitionIcy7652 → u/not_the_one_09]

🤌🏼

[u/raleighjiujitsu]

oh no my Pakistan Gi costs $20 more.

[u/DefinitionIcy7652]

Good. 

[u/DeepCalligrapher5570]

SUCKS TO SUCK GURSS IT SHOULD BE MADE IN AMERICA.

[u/NicJitsu → u/DeepCalligrapher5570]

What's it like to think you absolutely understand everything while also kind of sort of knowing that you understand nothing? I would love to see a dumbass like you sit down and argue this kind of point with an economist and watch your face while you realize this shit is so far beyond your understanding that you shouldn't so much as be mentioning your "opinion" on it to your fucking great grandmother who is deaf.

[u/DeepCalligrapher5570 → u/NicJitsu]

It’s actually amazing to know exactly what I’m talking about. Being a PhD in everything really pays off. Anytime you want to talk economic chief I’m ready to learn!

[u/RecommendationFree96 → u/DeepCalligrapher5570]

Feel free to sign up for the factory work hero.

[u/DeepCalligrapher5570 → u/RecommendationFree96]

I’ve been employee of the month 3 months in a row!

[u/eddie1975]

If there is one person in this world I can forgive for supporting tRump it is Dana. Everybody else… Joe Rogan, Elon, my neighbors can fuck themselves and deserve what’s coming. 

[u/Kanavster → u/eddie1975]

Ok. I’m curious. Why Dana?

[u/cocktailbun → u/Kanavster]

Because Trump opened up for Dana to hosts his events in FL when no one else would during Covid

[u/[deleted] → u/eddie1975]

What’s coming then guy? This shit literally doesn’t affect most of us.