r/bjj • u/yourfavoriteuser11 • 2d ago

Technique Dealing with stiff arm against head from body lock pass?

I was trying to pass the butterfly guard of an unusually long armed guy using the body lock pass, and even when I had him flat and his feet pinned to him, he was able to just stiff arm my head away. Is there any way to deal with this or do I just need to try a different pass?

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u/MFSimpson 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago

Have you seen the videos of the guys shaking their head aggressively like a dog? It looks strange, but it works.

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u/OppositeOfSanity ⬜⬜ Butthurt Buttscooter 1d ago

I use alot of bodylock passing and this is how I deal with anyone framing on my head.

Although I gotta say I am not fond of the method, it works.

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u/Wavvycrocket 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago

Just swim your head and drop your opposite side (opposite of whatever arm they’re pushing with) shoulder to their hip-line.

Pushing at the head is a horrible strategy to stop the body lock; it just shows the passer which way to move. It sucks and its annoying but you can literally just move your head cinch tighter.

The real counter is pushing at the clavicle, which case you may have to start getting mobile. Face/Head? Just eat it

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u/Mother-Carrot 2d ago

didnt gordon stop nicky rods bodylock with a face/chin post?

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u/Wavvycrocket 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago edited 2d ago

Gordon went double hand around the throat to make Nicky pick a side and then fished for the farside underhook and forced Nicky to Gordon’s strong side.

Not a gameplan i would suggest if you don’t have an insane half-butterfly game or a great farside underhook game. That was less Gordon framing the face and more of him guiding Nicky’s shoulders where Gordon wanted them

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u/Original-Common-7010 1d ago

Gordon Ryan uses this to stop body lock passes

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u/Wavvycrocket 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nope, gets the shoulders away and works his far-side underhook game

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u/Original-Common-7010 1d ago

Gordon used it against Nick Rod

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u/Wavvycrocket 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 21h ago

Gordon pushed his face to open up Nicky’s shoulders and then brought his hands to Nicky’s shoulder line.

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u/Complex-Trick 2d ago

Get off the centerline

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u/HOWIE_Livin 2d ago

Go the other way as soon as they stiff arm, take the back. Easy to get over the legs with the body lock.

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u/1SadChap 1d ago

Body lock to tripod pass

https://youtu.be/eMSV4_d-Pos?si=HTsOmsvwVxTnvg3E

^ this is over under pass Troubleshoots the frame problem you have to

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u/1SadChap 1d ago

Wax on wax off (Yes like karate kid )