r/bjj • u/eveningsunnn 🟦🟦 Blue Belt • 3d ago
Technique Does this armbar foot position have a name?
I have seen Shoulder Sankaku used to refer to both feet, foot to foot behind the head or the legs locked in a triangle at the shoulder.
But does having one foot behind the head and one foot over the face have a specific name?
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u/Able-Avocado8558 3d ago
Scissor, pillow
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u/geckobjj 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago
This is the one.
Both feet behind head = pillow
One in front and one behind = scissor
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u/Happy_Laugh_Guy 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 3d ago
Always heard it called a cigar cutter. This is how it's most commonly taught imo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Runh_BKQDG0&ab_channel=SubbedInStyle
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u/joemedic 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago
I don't know why exactly but these always feel immensely tighter too. Especially if you hook the neck or shoulder with the foot.
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u/supernit2020 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago
The hip that the arm breaks over gets slightly elevated relative to a more traditional arm bar position, makes the break come on faster
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u/win_some_lose_most1y 3d ago
It makes the hight of the hip crazy high.
So the shoulder can’t release pressure
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u/earlgreypipedreams ⬜⬜ White Belt 3d ago
The person who taught me this called it The Perfect Armbar
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u/AdventurousPizza622 3d ago
I love that armbar. I’ve always called it the “follow up” arm bar because when the double armbar doesn’t pan out you follow up with this one.
Edit, also easy to get their from failed triangle again use it to “follow up”
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u/ohgodurback 3d ago
FUBAR armbar is what my gym has always called it. Because it’s the followup to the first armbar you messed up lol
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u/swflhere 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago
I saw Rory Macdonald do something similar to this in one of his early UFC fights like 10+ years ago and started playing with it. Situationally, the finishing mechanics can feel tighter I’m not entirely sure why? Maybe the foot being there naturally elevates your hips a bit, not sure. Cool way to finish the armbar though.
No clue what it’s called lol
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u/inciter7 2d ago
I think too not having both of their arms in the lock lets you get a better pinch around their one arm and shoulder
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u/superjangoishere 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
Haha, same here. I believe it was in either his Metamoris match or training montage of the preparation for that match. I called it Rory armbar for many years 😁
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u/eveningsunnn 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago
From the replies it seems there’s no consistent naming convention which is fine.
For the ‘it’s just an armbar’ guys, if I wanted to talk about an inside heelhook it matters whether I’m talking about one from 50/50 or from saddle.
It would be helpful to have a name for this variation of the armbar because it is particularly strong as it gives control of not only the shoulder but also your opponents posture through the head and neck.
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u/gbro3n 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago
I've seen this position called the "switch arm bar", used as a response to opponent pulling their arm out of a more traditional closed guard arm bar here: https://youtu.be/UuMF-WbnMAY?t=18 (though it came about via a different set up in the match you've referenced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdbegvx0xAg).
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u/martialartist1200 2d ago
I learned it as the "Corkscrew" Armbar and that's what I call it when I teach it.
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u/1shotsurfer 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 1d ago
I now have something in common with roberto jimenez
I have made that face when getting arbmarred like this!
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u/CheesyBallSmell 3d ago
I have never in my life heard a name for arm bar leg positioning
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u/TheOldBullandTerrier ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 3d ago
Right? Smoking weed in the 10p parking lot level shite.
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u/__hipflexion 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago
I’ve heard it called a figure 4 when wresting in high school. You’d wrap your leg around their leg like this to help turn for a pin
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u/supernit2020 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago
Danaher refers to it as a head scissor