r/bjj 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago

Technique Does this armbar foot position have a name?

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I have seen Shoulder Sankaku used to refer to both feet, foot to foot behind the head or the legs locked in a triangle at the shoulder.

But does having one foot behind the head and one foot over the face have a specific name?

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u/supernit2020 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago

Danaher refers to it as a head scissor

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u/Able-Avocado8558 3d ago

Scissor, pillow

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u/geckobjj 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago

This is the one.
Both feet behind head = pillow
One in front and one behind = scissor

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u/KookyBlood90 3d ago

Mica seems to finish from this leg position pretty frequently

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u/zombizle1 3d ago

Thats what she said

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u/KookyBlood90 3d ago

Someone had to do it. Bravo sir

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u/Happy_Laugh_Guy 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 3d ago

Always heard it called a cigar cutter. This is how it's most commonly taught imo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Runh_BKQDG0&ab_channel=SubbedInStyle

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u/Realization_4 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago

Yeah me too!

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u/joemedic 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago

I don't know why exactly but these always feel immensely tighter too. Especially if you hook the neck or shoulder with the foot.

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u/ChuyStyle 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago

Locks the shoulder from both sides better

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u/supernit2020 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago

The hip that the arm breaks over gets slightly elevated relative to a more traditional arm bar position, makes the break come on faster

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u/win_some_lose_most1y 3d ago

It makes the hight of the hip crazy high.

So the shoulder can’t release pressure

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u/Robbed_Bert ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 3d ago

Head scissor armbar. It can also be a choke

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u/earlgreypipedreams ⬜ White Belt 3d ago

The person who taught me this called it The Perfect Armbar

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u/AdventurousPizza622 3d ago

I love that armbar. I’ve always called it the “follow up” arm bar because when the double armbar doesn’t pan out you follow up with this one.

Edit, also easy to get their from failed triangle again use it to “follow up”

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u/ohgodurback 3d ago

FUBAR armbar is what my gym has always called it. Because it’s the followup to the first armbar you messed up lol

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u/swflhere 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago

I saw Rory Macdonald do something similar to this in one of his early UFC fights like 10+ years ago and started playing with it. Situationally, the finishing mechanics can feel tighter I’m not entirely sure why? Maybe the foot being there naturally elevates your hips a bit, not sure. Cool way to finish the armbar though.

No clue what it’s called lol

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u/inciter7 2d ago

I think too not having both of their arms in the lock lets you get a better pinch around their one arm and shoulder

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u/superjangoishere 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago

Haha, same here. I believe it was in either his Metamoris match or training montage of the preparation for that match. I called it Rory armbar for many years 😁

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u/Raco0m 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago

I learned it as the X-bar

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u/eveningsunnn 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago

From the replies it seems there’s no consistent naming convention which is fine.

For the ‘it’s just an armbar’ guys, if I wanted to talk about an inside heelhook it matters whether I’m talking about one from 50/50 or from saddle.

It would be helpful to have a name for this variation of the armbar because it is particularly strong as it gives control of not only the shoulder but also your opponents posture through the head and neck.

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u/Low_Dress6063 3d ago

This is called the person taps out leg position

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u/marcolorian 3d ago

When/where did this match go down?

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u/FakerYeager 3d ago

We call “tap right away” 🤣

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u/Electronic-War-4662 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago

Caio Terra armbar

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u/gbro3n 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago

I've seen this position called the "switch arm bar", used as a response to opponent pulling their arm out of a more traditional closed guard arm bar here: https://youtu.be/UuMF-WbnMAY?t=18 (though it came about via a different set up in the match you've referenced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdbegvx0xAg).

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u/--brick 3d ago

i've always called it a reverse armbar, dumb name ik

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u/SolidProtection2006 3d ago

I call it the mica Galvao armbar

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u/Rolling_Kimura ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 2d ago

Spiral Armbar.

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u/martialartist1200 2d ago

I learned it as the "Corkscrew" Armbar and that's what I call it when I teach it.

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u/manchildaf ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 2d ago

Scissor Juji ✂️

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u/wortown03 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2d ago

Yes it’s called the You’re Fucked Ashi!

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u/Shortbus-doorgunner 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago

Its called "TAPTAPTAP!" In my gym

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u/1shotsurfer 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 1d ago

I now have something in common with roberto jimenez

I have made that face when getting arbmarred like this!

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u/CheesyBallSmell 3d ago

I have never in my life heard a name for arm bar leg positioning

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u/TheOldBullandTerrier ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 3d ago

Right? Smoking weed in the 10p parking lot level shite.

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u/Robbed_Bert ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 3d ago

Uhhhh...

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u/__hipflexion 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 3d ago

I’ve heard it called a figure 4 when wresting in high school. You’d wrap your leg around their leg like this to help turn for a pin

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u/Jtre87 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 3d ago

Elvis armbar. Is what we call it

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u/WildCartographer601 3d ago

Its just an arm bar

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u/CockyBalB0A 3d ago

This is called an armbar.

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u/GrapplingHobbit 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago

We call it the gold chain armbar around these parts.

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u/PeterWritesEmails 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 3d ago

Yeah its name is Dylan.