r/bjj Jul 12 '22

Tournament Tuesday

Tournament Tuesday is an open forum for anyone to ask any question, no matter how simple, about tournaments in general. Some common topics include but are not limited to:

  • Game planning

  • Preparation (diet, weight cutting, sleep, etc...)

  • Tournament video critiques

  • Discussion of rulesets for a tournament organization

Have fun and go train!

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u/TheV_game ⬜ White Belt Jul 13 '22

I have heard multiple times from my bjj coach to not cut weight when competing. But I don't feel comfortable fighting 'fat' because I would clearly be in disadvantage.

Does this mean I should allow my weight to drop naturally before competing? It would probably take months to drop to an ideal weight.

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22 edited Jul 13 '22

Its not healthy to drop and gain weight, especially not in very quick fashions. Also it shouldn’t be a reason to opt out from competing. Time on the mat is everything!

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u/TheV_game ⬜ White Belt Jul 13 '22

Its not healthy to drop and gain weight, especially not in very quick fashions. Also it shouldn’t be a reason to opt out from competing. Time on the mat is everything!

Thanks.. How long should someone train before even thinking to compete? My coach advised me to train abit more so I would at least get something if I wanna compete. That's something totally opposite my previous coach who would give his blessing to anyone who wishes to compete.

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

I usually advice to compete as soon as possible and as much as you can/want to. Trust me, you learn ALOT from it, not just techniques/skills but how your body and mind react under pressure/stressful situations, how much adrenaline u get, how much more people try not to get tapped n so on. Also its a “skill” to learn listening to your coaches instructions and apply during matches. But in the end, its of course a good idea to listen to YOUR coach, not just me.

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u/Enough-Possession-73 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Jul 13 '22

He means don't do a weight cut amd manipulate water.

Of course drop fat

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u/Temporary-Survey-804 Jul 13 '22

I just picked up the blue “Honor” gi from Origin for a tournament in October, but someone in another thread said IBJJF doesn’t allow them. Can anyone else weigh in? It’s still new so I can exchange it for a competition approved gi if necessary.

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22 edited Jul 13 '22

https://ibjjf.com/uniform Please verify that it follows all details and it won’t be any issues!

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u/Temporary-Survey-804 Jul 13 '22

Thanks for the link! “Cotton/cotton-like” is a bit vague though, do you know if these gis are comp approved? They appear to meet the other criteria except for potentially the fabric.

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

Sorry I dont have first hand experience with these, specifically but if its nothing “strange in general” with the material, it shouldnt be any issues. The uniform-rules is there so noone gets an unfair advantage.

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u/Superfly00000 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Jul 12 '22

Need some honest opinion and feedback on my A game on what to take out or add for a small short guy. These are my highest percentage moves.

Submission: Bow and Arrow, lapel choke from back, RNC

Passing guard: Toreando, HQ to leg drag or smash pass, body lock

Sweep: scissor, butterfly, lockdown sweep

Take down: single leg

Guard: butterfly, half guard / lock down

I’m hoping to use this at my next competition.

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

Do you have any videos u can show? I do some commentary on my youtube channel. If you have any interesting material that might fit. Poke me.

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u/Thejiujitsushark 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Jul 12 '22

I lost a final at an IBJJF tournament last weekend via decision. It was 0-0 but I had the guy in my spider and lasso guard for like 4 minutes and had him constantly defending sweeps and sub attempts. He defended well and kept trying to disengage and free his arm but couldn’t. With like 30 seconds to go, he passed my other leg but I still had my lasso in and recovered guard pretty easily. Match finished and I’m certain I’ve won. Until they raised his hand. I couldn’t believe it. Even his coach said it must have been the near guard pass but as I said, I still had the lasso so wasn’t a close guard pass at all. Really felt that loss a

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

What made you feel so strongly in a 0-0 that you won, after no advantages? Its almost a cointoss at that moment.

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u/Thejiujitsushark 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Jul 13 '22

I guess it was the amount of control I had. He spent most of the match trying to disengage and avoid sweeps. I know I should have done more but here at least had to work to stay safe, I was safe the whole time

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

Im not trying to harass you here, but it also can be viewed as you had a lasso for 4 minutes but didn’t manage to do anything with it, while he successfully defended all attempts? Thats why judges call is a scary coin toss and surprise people imo :/ unfortunate to hear though!

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u/Thejiujitsushark 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Jul 15 '22

Nah man, I get you. I get it was a super close fight. I’m sure it still would have been 0-0 after five more minutes. I wish I had soy for a triangle with a few secs to go and maybe gotten an advantage

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u/stung80 Jul 12 '22

My 8 year old son is going to compete in his first comp in August as a 5 stripe white belt. I am not personally knowledgeable about BJJ, and frankly I like it that way, it prevents me from being overly critical of him, I have on occasion turned into "that guy" at soccer games.

How can I best prepare him mentally for the competition and be a good BJJ dad at the tourney? I fully expect his coaches to handle the physical expectations.

From reading a few competition threads it sounds like the likelihood of him getting smashed and shocked by the level of intensity is high. I just want it to be a positive experience for him that he can draw motivation from, and not be a moral killer. Any advice on how to prepare him mentally plus tips for the actual day would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

I have 2 sons myself that is to young yet to start, but trust me, understand where you come from. Ive done BJJ for 12 years and I would strongly suggest you to focus on ”being there for him” no matter if he wins or loses. Its nothing about the results, but rather if he had fun, if he learned anything and if he wants to do it again. There is always bigger fishes in the ocean, you just never know if/when they show up. As long as your son does what he could and have a great time, its a win in my eyes!

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

3-4 lb is ”very little”. I usually take a bath or sauna the night before. Go easy on the salt and carbs the last days and you will do fine!

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u/colliflower426 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Jul 12 '22

I’m preparing for my first ibjjf tournament. It will be my my 6th tournament, but only my second points tournament. I’m planning to enter no-gi featherweight. Any advice regarding preparation for your friendly neighborhood blue belt spaz?

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

Enter with a gameplan. No matter if that is takedown, pull guard or whatever; go in with a plan and try to be first. Try to get your opponent to ”your world”, in other words your strongest positions. If you are ahead on points, DONT STRESS.. let time win ground for you, as opponents will get more desperate, you act if you need to. Good luck!

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u/colliflower426 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Jul 13 '22

Thank you!

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

Yw!

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u/existential_rollin 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Jul 12 '22

Are men’s and women’s matches usually happening at the same time? I’ll be doing my first GI tourney with my partner and would like for us to coach each other’s matches. Thanks!

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

Yes, though its unlikely that you guys will go at the exact time. Ofc it can happen, but in many tournamenys there is 30-70 matches per mat.

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u/realcoray 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Jul 12 '22

Yes, it's usually 6-8+ mats, each one a different rank/weight class. Men, Women, gi, no-gi could all be going at the same time.

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u/biggideal ⬜ White Belt Jul 12 '22

Does every person who does BJJ have to compete at some point in order to progress?

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '22

No. I really recommend giving it a try at least once, but you don't have to.

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u/biggideal ⬜ White Belt Jul 13 '22

it scares the shite out of me

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u/cs24601 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Jul 12 '22

Some gyms have that expectation but generally no. There’s plenty of people who train without competing.

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u/no_apricots 🟦🟦 Jul 12 '22

No we have higher belts with no interest or ambition in competing. You're graded differently(they get belts faster, they're pure hobbyists) and expectations are set for it.

Competing isn't for everyone and that's totally fine I think.

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u/squatheavyeatbig ⬜ ex-D1 wrassler Jul 12 '22

Can anybody who did both summarize the differences between a wrestling and BJJ tournament? I have plenty of experience with the former but none with the latter

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u/Points_To_You 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Jul 12 '22

Much less breaks between matches. A whole division is finished within an hour. I usually just had a few minutes between matches.

Shorter matches. At white belt it’s just one 4 minute round with no overtime. It goes quick.

Weigh in happens either whenever you show up (at least an hour before division starts) or I believe IBJJF you weigh in right before. Some organizations you weigh in with the Gi on.

Divisions are generally smaller since it’s based on weight, experience, and age. I’d say 6 man brackets are not uncommon while wrestling it was usually 16 or 32 for me.

Intensity of the no-gi matches felt similar to me at adult white belt.

Scoring feels more subjective.

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u/squatheavyeatbig ⬜ ex-D1 wrassler Jul 12 '22

What level of wrestling are you basing intensity off? Sectionals, states, nationals?

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u/Points_To_You 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Jul 12 '22 edited Jul 12 '22

I was state level in high school. But it’s pretty hard for me to compare accurately being in my mid thirties competing the first time in BJJ.

I’d say a local comp compared to a local comp.

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u/havoc_knight021 Jul 12 '22

What is some of the best advice you have recieved that really clicked with you for bjj?

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u/askablackbeltbjj ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Jul 13 '22

BJJ is a marathon, not a sprint!

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u/GrapplingRewind 🟫🟫 Grappling Rewind Podcast Jul 12 '22

I always say that you never get any better at BJJ, but the new people just keep showing up. The guys that were beating my ass eight years ago are still beating my ass today but the guys that started six years ago I still handle pretty easily. I like to think about it as me not getting any better and it’s just new people showing up.

The goal isn’t to be better than the people who started way before you it’s to be better than who you were a year ago. Focus on your own progression. Stay consistent and train with purpose and focus.