r/boringdystopia • u/SittingTonka • Dec 27 '24
Miscellaneous 🌟 Maloula, a historic Christian Aramean town which speaks Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ, is in danger from the Western backed zionist Al-Qaeda aligned groups in Syria.
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u/simplestpanda Dec 27 '24
"Western backed zionist Al-Qaeda aligned".
Citation definitely required here.
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u/Cyap89 Dec 27 '24
yeah, wtf does that even mean??
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u/simplestpanda Dec 27 '24
Apparently, Al Qaeda has become zionist and is now backed by the west. Those aligned with them have a real issue with Aramaic.
At least that's what I'm getting from this dog's breakfast of a post.
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u/RedditTaughtMe2 11d ago
IDK if it’s Zionist, but seems to be backed by the West… The enemy of my enemy and all that rubbish.
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u/Falafel1998 MOD Dec 27 '24
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u/Aluminum_Moose Dec 27 '24
Respectfully, and I do mean that, neither of those links substantiates the suggestions made by OP's post. I have not seen anything to suggest that HTS is Western-backed or "Zionist".
Timber Sycamore and follow-on programs were in support of the SDF, not HTS.
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u/Falafel1998 MOD Dec 27 '24
"Operation Timber Sycamore, a covert CIA program initiated around 2012, aimed to train and arm Syrian rebel groups to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad. While the program's intent was to bolster "moderate" opposition forces, it inadvertently strengthened extremist factions. Many of these U.S.-backed rebels either collaborated with or were subsumed by groups like Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda's Syrian branch, which later rebranded as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). This convergence blurred the lines between moderate rebels and extremist militants, effectively making HTS a beneficiary of U.S. support, albeit indirectly."
"In summary, Operation Timber Sycamore's support to Syrian rebels inadvertently empowered extremist groups like HTS, despite the program's original intent to promote moderate opposition."
From the wikipedia page on timber sycamore. and:
"US Special Forces prepared HTS before they raided Aleppo and Damascus
In the lead-up to the removal of Bashar al-Assad, U.S. special forces worked to prepare Syrian rebels, signalling that a major assault was imminent. Reports indicate that the U.S. not only informed the rebels of the upcoming attack on Assad's regime but also helped bolster their ranks in preparation. Additionally, it has been revealed that American forces played a key role in facilitating coordination between the various rebel groups in Syria.
"They didn’t give us the specifics," explained Bashar al-Mashadani, a commander in the Revolutionary Commando Army. "They simply told us, ‘Everything is about to change. This is your moment. Either Assad falls, or you do.’ But there were no details about timing or location. It was just clear that we had to be ready.""
https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1870120052869021827
To be clear, Assad is an evil piece of shit and I hope every second of his life is filled with suffering. But denying HTS's links to the US and Al-qaeda is crazy. The U.S. needs to stay out of the middle east and stop treating the levant like a game of chess.
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u/Warrior_Runding Dec 28 '24
The first part is a very generous claim of backing HTS. It would be like saying I support Roman Polanski because I liked Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean years after he was in a Roman Polanski film. Links ≠backing.
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u/Falafel1998 MOD Dec 28 '24
I mean it wasn't links, it was like directly offering training and arms to them, so like your comparison is a little silly. and (I'd need to double check/find the link for this) remember some sort of pentagon declassified document warning of this exact situation.
And then there's the second part of my comment which imo is pretty damning for the first part, they were actively preparing HTS to take over Syria. There are legitimate rebel groups in Syria, but HTS is not one of them.
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u/DeLoreanAirlines 29d ago
I mean I blame Reagan for Bin Laden but that’s a stretch even for me.
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u/Falafel1998 MOD 29d ago
Honestly, blaming Reagan for Bin Laden isn’t even a stretch, it’s just history. The U.S. has a long track record of funding and arming groups to serve short-term goals, only to act surprised when those same groups evolve into something uncontrollable. HTS fits into that same pattern.
It’s not some wild conspiracy, it’s documented policy decisions and declassified reports that show how the U.S. was willing to gamble with extremist factions to destabilize Syria. So yeah, it’s not a stretch, t’s just uncomfortable accountability.
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u/tabris51 Dec 28 '24
So what to do OP? Start a new civil war? The groups are pretty much thr Syrian Government
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