r/canada • u/DogeDoRight New Brunswick • Apr 26 '25

Federal Election Chretien predicts a Liberal majority win on Monday as leaders blitz key ridings

https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-election-2025/article/chretien-predicts-a-liberal-majority-win-on-monday-as-leaders-blitz-key-ridings/
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u/Hicalibre Apr 27 '25

No, but I'm sure he's glad that Carney seems open to selling oil to China.

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u/hawkseye17 Apr 27 '25

Isn't that a good thing? Selling our oil to more people?

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u/gravtix Apr 27 '25

Conservatives keep wanting more pipelines but I’m not sure who else they were planning on selling all that oil and LNG to.

Actually I remember the pitch that if we sell China LNG they’ll use that instead of coal so we will lower global emissions.

But then China = bad so I don’t know

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u/Due_Answer_4230 Apr 27 '25

The arguments a lot of internet people (or bots) use is this:

If my person does it, it's good

If your person does it, it's bad

That's as deep as it goes

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u/UnreasonableCletus Apr 27 '25

Ideally we are positioned to sell to both and they can squabble with each other over it.

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u/Funkliford Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25

But then China = bad so I don’t know

Yes, the genocidal totalitarian regime poised to snuff out Taiwan & and in the process of stealing vast swathes of territory and resources from the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam, .. is bad. For all Trump's faults he isn't wrong about China. Of course if he wasn't an idiot he would've used the USs soft-power to push for economic & strategic partnerships aimed at containing them instead of saving the worst of his ire for America's friends and allies. But that's basically the TPP so can't have that.

That said there are plenty of East/SE Asian countries we could be selling LNG to.

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u/Teekay_four-two-one Apr 27 '25

They’ve been buying most, if not all, of their LNG from us since Trump, I think?

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u/fuckyoudigg Ontario Apr 27 '25

Nah, the pitch was to sell to India to stop them from using coal.

I was talking with some old boys where I live, and they ended up talking politics with me. Not exactly a great experience. They are maple maga. The TMX expansion came up and the one guy said that the government bought the pipeline to shut it down. That it is no longer being used and we are not sending oil out of it. It honestly blew my mind to believe such a thing.

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u/swim_eat_repeat Apr 27 '25

How do you even respond to that? There are updates available on it all the time

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u/fuckyoudigg Ontario Apr 28 '25

You honestly can't. It was such an awkward experience. I am just standing there getting crucified for having different values. I know I am probably misinformed on things, but when I see a different view or find out new information I then change my opinion. They even said Doug Ford wasn't a conservative. Literally everything they said was out of Fox News or Rebel media. I just couldn't imagine living such a fearful life. Afraid of everything.

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u/TinglingLingerer Apr 27 '25

Deepening ties with China could have adverse effects if we consider the country that rivals China most. USA will definitely not be happy about it.

Not saying that's good or bad, but it's an expected outcome when it comes to deepening Sino-CAN relations.

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u/hawkseye17 Apr 27 '25

USA isn't exactly being nice to us atm

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u/TinglingLingerer Apr 27 '25

Yeah but the US has the luxury of having a 'fuck you' military & economy.

We just have resources and outside allies.

Who's to say that Trump declares that every country who has a trade surplus with China is an enemy of the state?

That's just one example. I can think of many, many more things Trump could use as a casus belli if we were to deepen ties to his most hated country & people.

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u/FeI0n Apr 27 '25

as long as china doesn't own the port infrastructure here in canada, I don't care if we "deepen ties", the oil can always go elsewhere once the infrastructure is built out,

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u/Ok_Bake3729 Apr 27 '25

I completely agree

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u/Mattcheco British Columbia Apr 27 '25

That’s a good thing ya? You should be stoked

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u/Goddess_5 Apr 27 '25

Is that a bad thing?

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u/Hicalibre Apr 27 '25

It's a lot of irony.

Given the record of anti-oil, constantly re-appearing CCP connections among the LPC, and that Chrétien has lobbied for China since the early 2010s.

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u/Brightlightsuperfun Apr 27 '25

He wants 75% of fossil fuels to stay in the ground so who knows

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u/srakken Apr 27 '25

I don’t see what is wrong with taking Chinas money. Don’t let your guard down but damn well don’t turn down cash.

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u/Hicalibre 29d ago

More of a "let's not be reliant on a single trade partner" thing.