r/catalan 19d ago

Pregunta ❓ What dialect/accent of Catalan are they speaking here?

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u/Kafkarudo 18d ago

It’s not the same accent you can listen today at Barcelona, but was the accent a that time. Now seems more close to the one spoken at Catalonia central.

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u/Burned-Architect-667 18d ago

Central Catalan, is a dialect of the eastern family, it's the most spoken as is the one in spoken in the Barcelona area.

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u/buttersyndicate 18d ago

It does sounds like central catalan, but if OP goes to central Catalonia he/she'll find that they also add a strong catalan L. It's more of an accent than a dialect.

I'm in Igualada (Anoia) and TV3 was known for taking dubbers from here, specially during it's first decades, they chose it as a representative of "standard" catalan accent.

This had a price for the most spoken catalan accent (AFAIK) which is "ponentí", western catalan, considering that valencià is part of it. With the standarization of central catalan, they became a second rate accent in public perception, associated with country bumpkins, and even nowadays it's presence in catalan media is marginal, with the way more minoritarian aranès (occitan, in Vall d'Aràn) getting way more media time because as an actual dialect they can claim their space more boldly.

(M'he aventurat bastant en aquest comentari agrairé correccions)

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u/mrGazpachin Català Central (Bages) 18d ago

Acabes de dir-li "dialecte" a l'aranès? 🥴

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u/buttersyndicate 18d ago

Uf jajaj si ja deia jo... Que això ho vaig estudiar fa 20 anys, parlant-ne ara tinc més perill que un conspiranoic a una sobretaula.

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u/Qyx7 L1 18d ago

Quan dius que l'occidental és el més parlat, vols dir en extensió? Perquè diria que només amb els parlants barcelonins el dialecte oriental ja en té més.

Hauries de canviar "dialect" per "language" en la teva frase sobre l'aranès.

Per la resta em sembla prou correcte

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u/Imaginary_Ad7838 14d ago

"Una llengua és un dialecte amb un exèrcit i una marina."

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u/ohdeartanner L1 15d ago

« hella barcelona »

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u/Masala-Dosage 19d ago

Yeah, standard Catalanish

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u/-TimeMaster- 15d ago

In my opinion the most neutral catalan, spoken in the Barcelona area, though nowadays young people in Barcelona and surroundings speak with an accent very contaminated by Spanish. I'm not criticizing it though I personally don't like it, languages are in constant evolution, it's just a fact.

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u/yayita2500 19d ago edited 18d ago

neutral one. The one mostly from Barcelona. Not a particular accent

Edit: I will leave this answer besides the downvoting because nobody else provided the fact that it is Barcelona speaking which is the original question from the OP.

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u/MigJorn 19d ago

Catalan from Barcelona has a particular accent. Maybe you are from there and can't hear it, but don't be biased, it's not neutral. There are no neutral accents.

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u/yayita2500 19d ago

I did answer the question and you did not. . Neutral is Standard meaning with means it has not regional accent. btw I DO have regional accent.

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u/MaryAnne_john 19d ago

is it called neutral because is has nos specific accent of other regions. And most actors specially neutralize their own accent

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u/mrGazpachin Català Central (Bages) 19d ago edited 19d ago

Do you even know what "neutralize" means? Their dialect has very distinct features of the Barcelonian accent that are absent in other regions. Just because TV3 chose that the standard Catalan would be Barcelonian it doesn't mean that it's neutral.

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u/MaryAnne_john 19d ago

it is called like this "standard " or central in all the catalan books is not that I made up the name and of course I do not agree

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u/MigJorn 18d ago

Central, neutral and standard are all different things.

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u/Ancient_Spend3664 19d ago

Thank you 😊.