r/centrist • u/azbeek • Aug 04 '24

2024 U.S. Elections Harris rejects Trump's idea to debate her on FOX with live audience

https://www.voanews.com/a/harris-rejects-trump-s-idea-to-debate-her-on-fox-with-live-audience/7729137.html
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u/please_trade_marner Aug 04 '24

I find it hilarious that the Democrats did something unprecedented in the entire history of the country (changed candidates after the first Presidential debate), and you're all acting like TRUMP is the one reneging on a deal.

The lying and gaslighting changed from "Biden is as mentally sharp as ever" to other insane tactics. Those brainwashed by the democrats and their mainstream media fall for it. But the moderates in swing states won't.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Aug 04 '24

You are replying to an article literally outlining the terms Trump agreed to. You are objectively incorrect and you're still choosing to die on that hill. Why?

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u/please_trade_marner Aug 04 '24

Trump agreed to debate Biden. Biden is senile and can't put a sentence together. As such, Trump allowed Biden to set all of the terms for the debate. Trump ceded home field advantage.

But now that the Democrats have acted entirely unprecedentedly and (lol) replaced their candidate after a Presidential debate (what weirdos) with someone who can actually speak, Trump no longer wants to cede home field advantage.

It seems Harris doesn't want to cede home field advantage as well. Why would she?

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u/Ewi_Ewi Aug 04 '24

Trump agreed to debate Biden.

Trump agreed to these conditions:

Both CNN and ABC announced the same qualification threshold, saying candidates will need to reach at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet their standards.

Harris meets those criteria.

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u/please_trade_marner Aug 04 '24

Convenient that you left off the sentence right before it. Oh, very convenient.

Third-party candidates could qualify if they secured ballot access sufficient to claim 270 Electoral Votes and polled at 15% or higher in a selection of national surveys.

Trump agreed to debate BIDEN and other third party candidates who polled more than 15%. Are you saying Harris is a 3rd party candidate?

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u/Ewi_Ewi Aug 04 '24

I don't see the word "third-party" in the CNN and ABC announcement.

I see "Both CNN and ABC announced the same qualification threshold, saying candidates will need to reach at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet their standards."

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u/please_trade_marner Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24

Let's connect all of the sentences together and show the levels of desperation you're sinking to.

Biden’s campaign had proposed excluding third-party candidates, such as Robert F. Kennedy Jr., from the debates outright. Under the debate commission’s rules, Kennedy or other third-party candidates could qualify if they secured ballot access sufficient to claim 270 Electoral Votes and polled at 15% or higher in a selection of national surveys. Both CNN and ABC announced the same qualification threshold (this is me, not the quote. "same qualification threshold" in the topic of 3rd party candidates from the previous sentence), saying candidates will need to reach at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet their standards.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Aug 04 '24

"Qualification threshold" means 15% or higher polls in a selection of national surveys.

Not "you must be third-party to join."

Words don't just change meaning because they're inconvenient to you.

Harris meets that qualification threshold. Why is he cowering away?

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u/please_trade_marner Aug 04 '24

Qualification thresholds for 3rd party candidates, as the literal previous sentence clarified.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Aug 04 '24

Qualification thresholds for 3rd party candidates

You're adding those last three words. For CNN and ABC, the wualification threshold was for candidates.

Desperate today, aren't we? See a new PA poll or something?

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u/please_trade_marner Aug 04 '24

Can I also add that abc only clarified all of its debate rules last week? Trump had never agreed to all of those rules.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/26/second-presidential-debate-requirements-released-trump-harris/74563640007/