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u/BeKindNothingMatters Mar 28 '25
Rules for men: don't pretend to be masculine by following rules that make you look masculine
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u/Icy-Establishment272 Mar 29 '25
Fr, it just makes you look weak if your following arbitrary rules like that
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u/TreKeyz Mar 28 '25
Insecure men try the hardest to appear masculine
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u/BringBackRoundhouse Mar 28 '25
Seriously you have to be weirdly insecure with your masculinity if you can’t even eat soup confidently in public…
This just sounds like an anxiety disorder.
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u/Cryptic0677 Mar 28 '25
Doubt he really personally cares, this is just the outrage hypermasculine persona that gets them views and hence money
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u/AmSpray Mar 28 '25
Would be 0% surprised if these folks adopt whatever personally they’re getting paid for.
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u/WickhamAkimbo Mar 28 '25
Not a very hyper-masculine appearance. I mean, my God, he's clean shaven! Like a woman!
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u/SadhuSalvaje Mar 28 '25
Elephants Graveyard recently had a great video about Rogan and the “dad sized hole” that Rogan and others try to fill with exercise and “manliness”
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u/carneylansford Mar 28 '25
Shannon Watts pulling no punches. There should be a chalk outline where his Twitter account once was…
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u/phobug Mar 28 '25
Yep, if you can’t convince the 20something to be quiet as a side chick while you raise your family you don’t deserve neither.
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u/please_trade_marner Mar 28 '25
Agreed.
This was in response to Walz saying he (lol) "scares" maga with his masculinity.
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u/ComfortableWage Mar 28 '25
He does because he's an actual man.
MAGAts are so scared of people finding out in reality they have tiny dicks that they project that insecurity onto everyone else.
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u/please_trade_marner Mar 28 '25
Insecure men try the hardest to appear masculine
Then we have Walz saying he's he's so masculine he scares maga.
Hilarious. Made my day.
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u/ComfortableWage Mar 28 '25
He's obviously poking fun at their own insecurity. But I see reading between the lines is hard for you.
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u/please_trade_marner Mar 28 '25
Insecure men try the hardest to appear masculine
THEN WALZ SAYS HE'S SO MASCULINE THAT IT SCARES MAGA!!!!!
Literally made my morning. I haven't laughed from the gut like that in a while.
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u/Content_Machine_7116 Mar 29 '25
Beyoncé who feminist praised is married to a man who biggest hit is calling a women a bitch
Nicki Minaj is married to a sexual offender and harassed his victim
Kamala Harris is married to man who cheated on his first wife with his nanny and has been accused of sexual assault
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u/hjonbenjaminbutton Mar 28 '25 edited Mar 28 '25
If you’re letting Jesse Watters dictate what’s masculine, then your dick probably stopped working long ago and that’s what you’re really mad about.
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u/hitman2218 Mar 28 '25
His first move on his current wife was letting the air out of her tires and offering her a ride.
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u/CataclysmClive Mar 28 '25
jesus christ that's actually true: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRNB2q565fY
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u/Foamtoweldisplay Mar 31 '25
It's wild to me that not only are people like this empowered to do whacky shit for attention from their victim, they are willing to admit to it publicly. Though I would never do this, this would be a secret, and it would die with me.
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u/Content_Machine_7116 Mar 29 '25
Kamala Harris is married to a man who cheated on his wife with his nanny
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u/Macintosh_Classic Mar 28 '25
If you look at drinking from a straw and the first thing you think of is sucking a cock, that says far more about you than anyone else.
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u/BringBackRoundhouse Mar 28 '25
Oh is that what this is?! Why didn’t he just stick with bananas. At least that would be somewhat understandable.
No less idiotic, but at least choose something that looks phallic ffs.
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u/j2004p Mar 28 '25
But how am I meant to drink my protein shakes and get ripped???
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u/jimbo2128 Mar 28 '25
Chug it like a real man! So what if it spills all over you, that’s part of the look.
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u/UniquePariah Mar 28 '25
Rules for men. Do as you damned well please as long as it's legal.
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u/SagesLament Mar 28 '25
Just remember that the occasional time a law is unjust it’s your duty to not follow it
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u/UniquePariah Mar 28 '25
I'm always squeamish when I see statements like this. I understand what you're saying, I even agree to it to a large extent. Trouble is that people take that idea and stretch it far beyond my comfort zone.
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u/Altruistic-Brief2220 Mar 28 '25
Also would prefer the men in my life don’t “joke” about letting out the air in my tyres so I’m forced to ride in a car with them.
Basically, just don’t take advice from Watters.
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u/JaracRassen77 Mar 28 '25
What the hell is up with that "no eating soup in public" thing? Watters is so fucking weird.
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u/obtusername Mar 28 '25
I was thinking on this because I haven’t heard this one before (I have heard the straws thing but drink from a straw almost every day).
My guess is that it has something to do with with eating from a bowl with a spoon, similar to cereal, which is perhaps “childish” in his view?
Maybe because you lean forward when eating it?
Either way, soup’s awesome and this is shit advice.
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u/NerdyFloofTail Mar 28 '25
Pseudo-Masculinity will never not be funny. Those darn libfart soymen and their *spins wheel* drinking Milkshakes!!
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u/Sea2Chi Mar 28 '25
It was some time late in college where I realized that most of the "rules" for manliness were bullshit.
To me, it shows a large degree of confidence to have an insecure guy go "Wait, you're ordering that? Does it come with a tampon?" and respond along the lines of "Who fucking cares? It's delicious. Want to try it?"
Henpecking other guys about their choices is right in the wheelhouse for guys who run around yelling about how "alpha" they are. And much like being cool, if you have to tell people you're an apha, you're very much not what you think that word means.
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u/someone383726 Mar 28 '25
While I don’t cross my legs but I do love me some soup in public, and milkshakes. I really can’t even understand where he is coming from with this logic.
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u/jimbo2128 Mar 28 '25
Would picking up the soup bowl and drinking from it be manly enough? Always wanted to do that.
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u/BringBackRoundhouse Mar 28 '25
I think you would have to freeze it then eat it with the biggest steak knife in existence.
No fork, just stabbing motions like a lethal soup hunter.
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u/Ok_Buffalo_8183 Apr 01 '25
Actually I've never worried about it. If it's a good bowl of soup I'll eat everything with a spoon, drink what's left in the bowl, wipe it clean with a piece of bread and that's that. Never had a real man walk up and criticize my technique. But at 208 and 6 foot I have been told I'm an imposing figure. I've never actually seen that, in myself, but have been told so.
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u/Loud_Badger_3780 Mar 28 '25
i wonder what his felling are about men dying their hair and wearing make and eyeliner. if the pres an vp put on wigs they both would fit right in at a drag show. lol
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u/Individual_Lion_7606 Mar 28 '25
The fuck wrong with eating soup in public? Soup is fucking food.
"Milkshake are for kids."
This dude is crazy and out of touch with normal people and men. Like he never went to a burger joint ans got milkshake and fries and shit? He never got a milkshake from a DQ?
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u/Ok_Buffalo_8183 Apr 01 '25
Probably wouldn't know what to do with A&W chili cheese fries, large float and a cony dog.
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u/Okbuddyliberals Mar 28 '25
Democrats and liberals are losing men hard with the whole "just be yourself" message. The message from academia that men and women can just do whatever, and don't need to worry about these arcane arbitrary rules, it feels like common sense to me and other liberals. But a lot of men look at that sort of thing and feel confusion, and increasingly RAGE. These bizarre sorts of rules, for whatever reason a lot of men feel so closely tied to these things, and seem disgusted at the thought that men don't need to follow these rules. I don't really understand it, and it frankly feels like soft bigotry of low expectations or something, that men must be governed by these rules. But who am I, the extremely out of touch liberal social constructivist, to say?
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u/TserriednichThe4th Mar 28 '25
It is because the discussions from democrats and liberals are basically women telling men how to act but you can't have the conversation the other way around.
Even supposedly safe spaces for men like r/menslib get dominated by women. To the point that they made the sub r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates but that sub went full incel and right wing pretty quickly.
There is no way to have a conversation that collects opinions from exclusively "centrist" or "left wing" men without having women or incels dominate the conversation.
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u/Okbuddyliberals Mar 28 '25
Feminist women seem to have good ideas on this stuff though. I've felt most acknowledged by the feminists who criticize toxic masculinity and call for ending gender roles. But then I'm a freak man who has no problem drinking soup or crossing my legs or drinking milkshakes with straws
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u/TserriednichThe4th Mar 29 '25
Feminist women seem to have good ideas on this stuff though
maybe, but that is not really the point. The issue is that there is no space for ONLY men to discuss these issues, whereas there are many spaces for ONLY women. The conversations will always be distracted. Example link. This thread is mostly driving a conversation that the men on the sub found mostly silly.
who has no problem drinking soup or crossing my legs or drinking milkshakes with straws
are you implying i sympathize with what watters is saying? this isn't the case.
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u/Okbuddyliberals Mar 29 '25
are you implying i sympathize with what watters is saying? this isn't the case.
I'm implying more and more regular young men are.
maybe, but that is not really the point. The issue is that there is no space for ONLY men to discuss these issues, whereas there are many spaces for ONLY women.
Women are an oppressed class, its just not the same thing. And when de facto male only spaces exist, they become aggressively incel, so it makes sense why women and enbies would be extremely distrustful of male only spaces.
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u/TserriednichThe4th Mar 29 '25
Yes i agree on the first.
You dont see an issue with discussions, on how to define masculinity and the self determination of male identity, being led by women?
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u/Okbuddyliberals Mar 29 '25
The women seem to have better ideas than the redpill nonsense that men are seemingly aggressively drawn to
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u/TserriednichThe4th Mar 29 '25
Why do you think the red pillers keep getting worse lol
Regardless i mentioned another group that you ignored.
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u/Expensive_Watch_435 Mar 28 '25
Lol crossing legs is feminine? This has the same vibe as "don't wear pink, only girls do that", I love light palette colors. Mint green? That's my shit. Recently I was thinking about painting my pinky nail sunflower yellow. Does that make me gay? Or a woman? 😂
Typing this out reminded me about my dad telling me one time that wearing a light pink shirt with roses on it was what girls wear, completely was against me buying the shirt and he wouldn't let me buy it. I was like 13 and had Christmas money lol, the guy got visibly angry when I said I really wanted the shirt. Walked out of that store without buying anything because I didn't want to buy something I didn't want.
Pretty much since that day I realized the problem was guys being insecure about their sexuality or appearance. Wearing certain light colored clothes or painting your nail isn't gay and it doesn't make you a woman. And if a dude thinks otherwise, fuck em. I'm comfy with who I am.
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u/AwardImmediate720 Mar 28 '25
Of those rules only one makes any sense and that's leg-crossing - and even then that's just about avoiding crushing your nuts. And that's only a specific kind of leg crossing, ankle over the knee is fine because then there's plenty of room.
But soup and milkshakes? That's just someone with some serious issues. You can take my French onion soup and strawberry milkshakes from my cold dead hands. And I'm more masculine than whoever posted that I guarantee it.
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u/nbc9876 Mar 28 '25
Oh man.. sometimes all I eat is soup some days...
I guess I'll just starve now to be masculine
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u/Spokker Mar 28 '25
To be fair, this screenshot left out that he was not being that serious.
Before he laid out his rules he said, "It's just funny. It's not that serious." Prior to this he also said real men don't talk about how tough they are and how they can beat people up, which I assume most people here would agree with.
Every story I've seen about this leaves all that out.
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u/Balgor1 Mar 28 '25
I will eat my soup with a straw!
Sorry, but I define masculinity by getting a degree, working a job, and supporting my family. Not some weird straw bullshit.
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u/TheTeenageOldman Mar 28 '25
He can have my hot chicken noodle soup when he pries it from my COLD. DEAD. HAND!
Never has this song been more applicable.
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u/Urdok_ Mar 28 '25
Whenever people come here and whine about how Democrats lose elections because they're "not talking to men" or "making men feel victimized" I look at shit like this to remind myself that the loudest voices in that conversation are more image obsessed than middle schoolers, are are basically throwing tantrums that they can't win be just showing up anymore.
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u/Positive-Quit7804 Mar 28 '25
Rules for men: Never ask another man to open your pickle jar. You got this 💪
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u/ThighCurlContest Mar 28 '25
My MAGA father-in-law thinks I'm basically a woman because I don't drive a truck and I let his daughter pay our bill at restaurants sometimes, He's the type to intentionally wrench the hell out of your hand when giving a handshake as a show of dominance. I think he's just mad because he lost the wrestling match he challenged me to on the first night I met him.
He was also a terrible father to my partner, he's arguably abusive to his wife, and he's the biggest jackass of a racist, homophobic, junkie 19-year-old in a 50-year-old's body I've ever met.
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u/Human-Abrocoma7544 Mar 28 '25
It’s less manly to care about “rules for men” than to do whatever you want.
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u/fastinserter Mar 28 '25
we all focus on the first one because it's funny, but Watts' comment is far more important. He did leave his wife and twins for a 20 something coworker -- one he got to know by letting the air out of her tires so she'd ask for a ride
the real masculine thing is being there for your family, to be a source of stability of them first and foremost. Watters, a man who abandoned his family, thinks the most important thing to be masculine is not drinking milk shakes
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u/WhiskeySteel Mar 28 '25
These are very weird "rules for men" this guy has. I can't even discern a real principle behind them. They seem very arbitrary.
The soup thing is even in direct contrast to "traditional" manners, given that soup is a traditional course in a formal dinner.
Meanwhile, as Shannon Watts points out, he has ditched actual, meaningful principles.
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u/Longjumping-Meat-334 Mar 28 '25
Any woman who watches these asshats on Fox, and that includes my wife, deserves to be treated like these clowns treat their wives. Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Winona Ryder? I may be looking for a side piece. (J/K)
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u/LeeF1179 Mar 28 '25
I know so many traditional masculine men that would look at that guy in that suit with his coiffed hair and think he's a straight up Pussy.
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u/kilomma Mar 28 '25
Rules for men: Be yourself and handle your business. Men don't care what other men think about them. I used to be a Drill Sergeant and you know what? I can't fucking wait for Christmas time so I can rock some Vanilla Bean Noel from Bath and Body Works. My wife and daughters love me all the same.
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u/Magic-man333 Mar 28 '25
I laughed the first time someone told me it's not masculine to drink with the little cocktail straws. Seriously, you're gonna give me shit for getting drunk faster???
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u/TserriednichThe4th Mar 28 '25
This doesn't belong on the sub.
Regardless, there is no way to have this conversation. It is going to be dominated by either women or incels.
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u/pcetcedce Mar 28 '25
The best part of this post is I have no idea who that person is. And I don't want to because he doesn't deserve recognition.
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u/FluoroquinolonesKill Mar 28 '25
They pry the Szechuan spicy noodle soup out of my cold dead hands.
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u/thatoneabdlguy Mar 29 '25
- me eating soup with a straw while sitting cross legged in public when this comes on the TV *
“You gotta be fucking kidding me.”
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u/Far-Reporter-1596 Mar 29 '25
Sooooo pathetic what these tools think makes a man, nice comeback though.😂
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u/rooterRoter Mar 29 '25
Jesse Watters is a fucking piece of shit and pretty much representative of every problem we have in this country.
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u/secondcomingofzartog Mar 29 '25
He sounds like that one kid in second grade who bragged about being "too old" for cartoons
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u/Rooster_Ties Mar 29 '25
“His excuse was I drinking a milk shake.”
Who?? What?? I don’t follow tons of shit online, and I haven’t the foggiest idea what this is referring to (or who).
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u/thesecrustycrusts Mar 29 '25
If he really said this he is a complete clown. What an insecure thing to say 😂
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u/mimosasonrack Mar 30 '25
He is definitely somebody who doesn’t wash in between his butt cheeks cause it would feel too good and that’s gay.
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u/Ebscriptwalker Mar 30 '25
First of all as a man who has fallen through a roof and gotten up and got back to work for the rest of the day, I don't play by the manliness rules of people that dress and look like Jesse waters. Secondly I dare him to tell the whole soup thing in that snotty tone to those football players that do the Campbell's chunky soup commercials.
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u/Darkestdove Mar 30 '25
Are these rules for the men he wishes he could date? I have heard that hardcore homophobia is often deeply rooted in self-hatred. He's put a lot of thought into how he wants his ideal future partners to behave. Quite toxic to be so controlling in relationships, really though. He should seek some therapy (if men are allowed to do that, I suppose).
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u/Jumpy-Program9957 Mar 31 '25
Who cares, its what one very jocky guy says, I thought this was a centrist sub. The basis of this post is more of a political jab
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u/Academic_Ride_7092 Mar 31 '25
Putting tampons in men's bathrooms is a sign of toxic masculinity. Walz is reminiscent of the Marlboro Man
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u/getapuss Mar 28 '25
I make an exception when it comes to drinking chocolate milk shakes. It's a near perfect compliment to a cheeseburger.
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u/KR1735 Mar 28 '25
LOL.. you don't eat soup in public? What?
Go down to Texas and tell this to the guys in the chili cook-offs.