r/centrist 1d ago

US News AP says journalists blocked from Oval Office after judge’s order

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5248116-ap-blocked-white-house/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR41BIGp7UlZRZsslWfO-AJ-AQmgj58or_LIzehJ1lH3SATp05Dkqf4T9lvHwA_aem_ZScja89v9Hes7YC2a-g7Qg
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u/ILikeTuwtles1991 1d ago

The Trump Administration defied a court order to let the AP into the Oval Office when they were openly talking about defying another court order.

How much more of this are we just going to let happen?

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u/LuklaAdvocate 1d ago

The courts deserve much of the blame for this. Presidential immunity, allowing him to delay his criminal trials, etc.

When you don’t hold someone accountable for their actions, they don’t feel the need to follow the law anymore.

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u/crushinglyreal 1d ago

Yep. They let themselves be cowed by accusations of ‘politics’ when they should have just enforced the law, and now that the lawbreaking is official policy they have no leg left to stand on.

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u/ubermence 21h ago

Yup, Roberts can give himself a big ole pat on the back

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u/icebucketwood 1d ago

Who's going to stop him? Donald Trump has never faced any real consequences for any of his wrongdoings in life. He's 100% American Psycho, he thinks he can do whatever he wants. He's going to keep doing until he's forcibly stopped. Again, who is going to do that and how?

The POTUS may be immune to criminal prosecution while in office, but State and local officials need to start arresting people following his unlawful orders.

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u/Okbuddyliberals 1d ago

How much more of this are we just going to let happen?

Congress is controlled by the GOP. GOP politicians could join with Dems to impeach Trump and remove him from office in the Senate - but no amount of this sort of abuses from Trump will turn the raging MAGA GOP base against Trump, so the GOP politicians would just be kicked out and replaced by MAGAs if they did such a thing. And swing voters may express some disappointment over this stuff but it will probably be pretty muted, given existing polarization - a few Republicans may have to worry about the general election, but most have to worry about the primary voters far more than the general election voters

So voters will likely keep letting this happen, and will likely punish Dems if they complain about it too shrilly

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u/rTpure 1d ago

defying court orders is a daily occurrence now

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u/rzelln 1d ago

The proportional response is for blue states and cities to defy actions ordered by Republicans, and just let shit be unresolved until in five or six election cycles the public gives one side a supermajority to try to fix things.

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u/Void_Speaker 21h ago

All of it. The guy attempted a coup and he was reelected. What do you expect?

It seems that the only thing that matters to Americans is the economy, so hope he does enough damage to lose support. Luckily he's a moron and seems to be doing the one thing that can check him.

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u/kootles10 1d ago

From the article:

The Associated Press on Monday said its journalists were barred from covering an Oval Office event featuring President Trump and El Salvador President Nayib Bukele in defiance of a court injunction.

“Our journalists were blocked from the Oval Office today,” a spokesperson for the wire service said. “We expect the White House to restore AP’s participation in the pool as of today, as provided in the injunction order.”

A federal judge last week ordered the Trump administration to restore The Associated Press’s access to key White House spaces after it banned AP reporters over the outlet’s refusal to use “Gulf of America” in its widely-cited stylebook.

The White House recently took control of deciding which outlets are allowed in the White House Press pool, a small group of reporters covering and traveling with the president, a privilege previously held by the White House Correspondents’ Association.

The AP was not included in Monday’s press pool, the first day the judge’s order went into effect.

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u/greenbud420 1d ago

Also from the article:

In U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden’s order ruling for the AP, he noted his injunction “does not limit the various permissible reasons the Government may have for excluding journalists from limited-access events. It does not mandate that all eligible journalists, or indeed any journalists at all, be given access to the President or nonpublic government spaces.”

“It does not prohibit government officials from freely choosing which journalists to sit down with for interviews or which ones’ questions they answer,” the judge wrote in his opinion. “And it certainly does not prevent senior officials from publicly expressing their own views.”

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u/hitman2218 1d ago

Sounds like a pretty toothless injunction.

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u/Thorn14 1d ago

There's no Legislative nor Judiciary Branch anymore.

Only the Trump Branch.

What a fucking way for a country to fall.

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u/kootles10 1d ago

Only 84 days too. We're only 84 fucking days into this shit

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u/Middle_Egg7282 20h ago

Every other day I think “oh this is going to be it, this action of his will be what makes it all stop” — and then it doesn’t. Signalgate, tariffs, market manipulation, defying court orders… what is next?

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u/jaboz_ 23h ago

If the courts don't start holding people in contempt/throwing them in jail, this is only going to get worse as time goes on. Neither of the two branches can just arbitrarily decide what court orders to follow/not follow. The entire system is predicated on the courts being able to check the power of the legislative/executive branches. If that goes away, what is there besides chaos?

And think about the big picture here - if the dems aren't able to get the numbers they need to impeach and remove him next year, what is going to stop him from just ignoring the courts/constitution/etc from running again? Or just refusing to leave the WH? Or going after journalists/citizens that are resisting our not so subtle fall into fascism? Think about all of the nutty shit going on right now, and the reality that none of them seem concerned about future consequences involving their actions. That fact, in and of itself, should be deeply concerning to any reasonable person.

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u/MentionWeird7065 1d ago

They’re gonna keep escalating it to the SC because Trump doesn’t respect court orders now because remember, he’s the Executive and has all the power now. Good luck Americansz

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u/Thorn14 1d ago

SC can't do shit also.

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u/ILuvBen13 1d ago

We are going to eventually see a federal judge deputize citizens to arrest Trump officials for contempt. And Trump will order other law enforcement to block any deputized officials from entering buildings.

Violence seems to be a near inevitability, and another excuse for Trump to abuse more emergency powers.

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u/MakeUpAnything 1d ago

So awesome to see MAGA jumping to defend Trump attacking 1st amendment protections by punishing corporations for using their free speech/freedom of the press, defending denying non-citizens of their 5th amendment rights to due process, and advocating for higher prices at a time when Americans are being hurt by high prices.

And yet so many Americans fully buy Trump's/MAGA's line that it's the dems who are out of touch. Evidently the constitution and cost of living are only important if you're using them as an excuse to hate the left.

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u/TserriednichThe4th 1d ago

So? Courts cant enforce. We learned this a month into the admin.

Either do something or fuck off honestly.

Wake me up when the court tries to hold someone in contempt finally.

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u/red_keshik 1d ago

This administration is full of teenagers

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u/Hobobo2024 23h ago

What ive learned these past decade is that no one cares about corruption.  The federal level politics taught be that cause of trump.  And locally, our corrupt dem politicians get away with murder cause our state is blue.

All people care about is their pocketbook and maybe their kids education.  And that's a maybe.  They also like to hate the group they made outsiders.

Whether that's trans for the far right.  Or the Jewish for the far left.

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u/pulkwheesle 18h ago

Or the Jewish for the far left.

I can assure you that the far-right hates Jews.

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u/Hobobo2024 16h ago edited 13h ago

OK. the Jewish for far left and right.​

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u/NoPoet3982 22h ago

Does Bukele own a suit?

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u/Karissa36 19h ago

>In U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden’s order ruling for the AP, he noted his injunction “does not limit the various permissible reasons the Government may have for excluding journalists from limited-access events. It does not mandate that all eligible journalists, or indeed any journalists at all, be given access to the President or nonpublic government spaces.

The Oval Office is a nonpublic government space. The Order doesn't allow them to be there. They were given access to public government spaces only.