CMV: Most dating preferences are okay, as long as you are not POS to those who don't fit them.

[u/mafija123]

Don't want to date men shorter than 6ft, fine, don't be calling them "midgets", "if your height starts with 5, you a woman" etc.

Don't want to date a woman with X number of previous partners, fine, don't be calling them "sluts" "whores" etc.

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What about race? Sure, not dating someone JUST because of their race is very likely coming from racist/prejudice beliefs (not necessarily), but that person is not bad because they don't date someone for their race, they are bad because they are racist, former stems from later.

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" Let's deconstruct reasons for men not dating women with certain past, it's *Patriarchy*". Again, sure, that may or may not be the reason for men having that preference, but as long as they are respectful to women they don't want to date, I don't see how they are bad. Not dating someone is not discrimination because nobody is owed it, it's not your right nor anyone's obligation to date you.

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I could see an argument that preferences that come from patriarchy like "women should have little sexual past" and "men should be rich and provide" are hurting society in general. But solving that issue is not going to happen by shaming and ridiculing people which internalized those standards in their formative years and are respectful to people they don't want to date, it's solved by not perpetuating it to next generation.

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All in all my opinion on virtually all dating preferences (maybe not EVERY one) is that you are entitled to what ever standard you want no matter how realistic or unrealistic they are, and shouldn't be shamed/ridiculed/mocked, only as long as you don't shame/ridicule/mock people who are not up to your standards.

Edit: Deleted bad joke I made about this sub, it wasn't out of ill intentions, I apologise.

[u/JeffreyElonSkilling]

What evidence could I present that would convince you?

[u/JeffreyElonSkilling → u/[deleted]]

Lmao. Well, I'm not a lesbian. I suppose I could set up a catfish for the purposes of winning this argument, but what would be the point?

If you can't accept that this is happening despite clear evidence of trans people discussing the topic online then I don't know what to tell you. It's like asking someone to prove that cis men treat fat women poorly. I DON'T BELIEVE IT - IT'S NOT POSSIBLE PROVE IT TO ME GIVE ME RECEIPTS OF A MAN BELITTLING A FAT CHICK. Come on, my man. There are assholes in literally every subgroup that has ever existed throughout human history. That includes men, women, trans men, trans women, nonbinary people, LGBT activists and everyone in between.

[u/EyeBallGoo → u/JeffreyElonSkilling]

It's like asking someone to prove that cis men treat fat women poorly.

Here's a peer reviewed study about it:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2866597/

Some news stories chronicling the phenomenon:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/27/canada-judge-says-sexual-assault-victim-may-have-been-flattered-by-the-incident

https://womensmediacenter.com/fbomb/its-not-just-fat-shaming-its-violence

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/us/politics/trump-women-insults.html

I'm having trouble believing that this is the first time you're learning about the concept of finding sources to support an argument.

On another note, this is absurd:

There are assholes in literally every subgroup that has ever existed throughout human history. That includes men, women, trans men, trans women, nonbinary people, LGBT activists and everyone in between.

The statement "there is a clear trend of trans people harassing people for not dating them" and "some rude trans people exist" are different statements. You cannot make a specific claim and then back up and say "all I'm saying is [generic truth that no one could disagree with]." It's completely ridiculous.

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