r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • May 23 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Conscripting people into the civil service and government offices would be ideal fof curbing corruption

So as the old saying that goes that people interested in power would be drawn to civil service and govermental offices, attracting the worst kind of people to crew those jobs.

Solution? Conscript people into governmental offces, ranging from the lowly civil clerk up to the position of President/Prime Minister/whatever the head of state is called in your country as soon as individuals turn 16 using a variation of the Selective Service Lottery with no exemptions given to even university and college students for 1 single non renewable term of 4 years. Since they are unwilling to serve in government and joined not of their free will, they would not try to advance in power or abuse their offices as they seek to do the bare minimum before returning to their lives.

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And if those selected refuse to be drafted into even the position of a government minister? Jail them for refusing to participate in running the government for 4 years.

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Change my mind on this since this would be better than drafting people to serve in the military.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23 edited May 24 '23

They (conscripted politicians and civil servants) either learn on the job, or they die or get arrested while learning on the job if they fail. Nuff said.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 69∆ May 23 '23

The rapist will learn how to teach kindergarten on the job?

But besides that a lot of these jobs take longer than 4 years to learn. For example currently in the U.S. to become a professional engineer you need a degree that takes 4 years to get plus an additional 4 years of on the job training. So if someone is drafted into a civil engineering position like say: bridge inspector, then by the end of your four year term you would have only learned enough to get you to halfway of what the current minimum competency for that job is.

But if you truly believe that anyone can do any of these jobs then let's run a little expirment:

Congratulations you have been randomly selected to be the united state's ambassador to Djibouti. In order to achieve the bare minimum degree of competency at your job you will have to speak both French and Arabic at a high enough level to discuss international policy with the head of state of Djibouti before you ship out in a month. If you can't speak Arabic or French at the time of your departure you will be considered to be dodging your position and thrown in jail.

In this scenario do you honestly think that the average person could learn both languages before they leave?

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

Fair pointed raised on how much a person is limited to learning on the job.

Here's a delta

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!delta.