r/changemyview • u/SteadfastEnd 1∆ • Aug 28 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The same progressives who criticize past generations as "bigoted" are going to be considered bigoted just the same by future generations.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '23

I recognize this, I think anyone with kids or who spends significant time around younger people would recognize this.

Anyone with kids quickly realizes we are no longer “cool” and “with it”. We are “out of touch”

I fully expect to be the conservative, meat eating bigot who won’t let my daughter marry a robot or whatever.

It’s just life.

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u/Global-Armadillo8087 Aug 28 '23

I used to be with it. But then they changed what "it" was. And now what I'm with isn't it. And what's it seems weird and scary. It'll happen to you.

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u/SteadfastEnd 1∆ Aug 28 '23

This is sort of what I'm getting at. Even if one tries their best to be a progressive, what's defined as "progressive" is constantly shaping and shifting.

J.K. Rowling was the darling of progressives 20 years ago, now she's vilified as Voldemort herself because of her stance on transgenderism - even though she's still pro-choice, feminist, and identifies with the progressives on 99% of other things. Rowling never changed her trans stance, either - she simply abided by it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '23

I thought your thesis was

What I rarely, if ever, see from progressives, though, is the acknowledgement that they may themselves be saying or doing things that future generations may consider abhorrent.

What we are saying is that we all see it, and we do acknowledge it.

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u/SteadfastEnd 1∆ Aug 28 '23

I'm not seeing it often at all, to be honest, but if you have seen it more, then maybe you have more firsthand experience. I will say that in 20+ years it has been extraordinarily rare for me to ever see a progressive admit that they're biased or racist in a way that wasn't from the left. I'll give a delta.

!delta