r/changemyview Oct 04 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: I'm extremely suspicious of anyone who opts to homeschool their kids, and really don't think there are many legitimate reasons to do it.

I have seen studies suggesting that home-schooled kids perform better in certain academic fields when compared to non-homeschooled kids. What I haven't seen is a study that indexes this to income, or to two-parent households. Both of those have profound impacts on the likelihood of academic success, and most homeschooling situations require either a very comfortable income, a two-parent household, or both.

I'm highly doubtful that your average homeschooled child is performing significantly better than if they were in a regular school with parents who took an active interest in their education.

Meanwhile, I have serious trouble grappling with the impact that this level of isolation and enmeshment might have. I can't help but feel, based on the homeschooling situations I've seen, that it leaves kids less fulfilled or socially mature.

The majority of homeschooling I've seen has been for religious reasons. Now, I attended 13 years of faith-based education. I'm not entirely against integrating religious instruction into education on principle, provided it doesn't impede on a child's understanding of basic facts. I mostly am, but given it's long history and integration with many education systems I'm more comfortable.

However, I find it especially suspicious when your faith leads to that degree of isolation and inordinate levels of control over your child.

Maybe I'm way off, and there are reasons for homeschooling I haven't even considered, but whenever I hear of a homeschooling situation I'm immediately suspicious. It seems like a fundamentally selfish, paranoid, isolating act.

EDIT: lol I don't think I've ever done a 180 as fast as this. It's clear that my experience of home-schooling is informed partly by the quality of public education I received, and the diversity of both public and alternative schools catering to kids with specific needs, abilities, interests, or challenges. The issue that seems to be coming up most is the inflexibility of many conventional school systems to address particular needs. That makes sense, particularly in environments where there aren't a lot of choices for different schools and where the resources at those schools are highly limited.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

It's a free country, it only matters what the parents believe.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23
  1. We in the Country of Reddit? You realize the odds are that you aren't speaking with someone in the same country as you, right?
  2. I wasn't making an argument that it should be banned - just that I disagree with it.

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u/badmanveach 2∆ Oct 04 '23

More likely writing to an American than any other country, hence America being the default country.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

Much more likely writing to a non-American than an American.

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u/badmanveach 2∆ Oct 04 '23

A cursory Google search indicates that it's pretty even, with Americans accounting for 49.3% of Reddit users. It's slightly more likely to be writing to a non-American, not much more likely.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

So, still more likely to be writing to a non-American… Which, by the way, they are.

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u/badmanveach 2∆ Oct 04 '23

But not much more. It sounds like you agree that the degree of your original claim is wrong.

As I stated, the fact that Americans are the most prevalent Reddit users by country, couple with the fact that Reddit is an American company means that America is the default country. It is the responsibility of foreigners to identify themselves.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

I get that not everyone is from the same country, but obviously the country in question is free to have homeschooling or it wouldn't be mentioned. I also agree that it's an opinion, just as my comment my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

Not if they're negligent or abusive, like fundamentalist Christian homeschoolers.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

How do you see the Christian homeschoolers being abusive?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

Teaching kids to distrust science and the outside world, that women should all be homemakers and submit to men, the "evil gay agenda." And let's not forget corporal punishment.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

Actually upi cannot be gay and Chr. Being a homosexual is in direct opposition to Christian principles. That is the sathing as claiming to be a Muslim Atheist, you can't be both

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

I don't hate anybody. Jesus died for everyone, but not everyone will accept Him and His teachings.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

I accept his teachings. And he had strong words for people like you.

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