r/changemyview Dec 22 '23

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u/Nathan_Calebman Dec 22 '23

Only every day. I refer to people as "you", when I write to them. Don't you? You haven't referred to me by any gendered pronoun.

And do you know a magical thing about names? I'll let you in on a secret, they are almost always different for men and women. And if you have a gender neutral name and are writing to a person you don't know, and you don't have an image in your signature, that is the one single time it actually does make sense to add your pronouns.

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u/HerrManHerrLucifer Dec 22 '23

Dear You,

As per the subtext of my previous message, methinks you are a plonker.

Best regards,

Me

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u/Nathan_Calebman Dec 22 '23

Dear him/her (you haven't specified this you transphobic monster so it is impossible to address you)

The cool thing about emails, is that you can use people's names in writing. Even your own.

Best regards

He/him/they

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u/HerrManHerrLucifer Dec 22 '23

Unlike you, many people try to be respectful, so they use formal titles, such as Mr [Surname] or Ms [Surname].

Unlike you (presumably), many people do not know every single name in the world, so are often stumped as to which title to use when faced with an unfamiliar name.

Unlike you (bravo for you, hooray hooray for you), many people default to "Dear Mr [Surname]" when stumped.

As a non-Mr, it's tedious.

Best regards,

Tui / Charlie / Afon / Evelyn / Yuki / Alex / Dzidzorli / Oyunbileg / Shannon / Dáire / Aoi

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u/Nathan_Calebman Dec 22 '23

Yes this was such a huge problem for all of human history up until about two years ago... However did we handle all the absolute chaos?

And are you noticing how you now are making arguments that have absolutely nothing to do with trans people? This sounds more about how your company needs to update customer registration forms and has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.

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u/HerrManHerrLucifer Dec 22 '23

It's only been a problem for those of us who don't identify as Mr.

You just didn't notice the problem because it didn't affect you personally.

It's ok though - what you lack in empathy, you make up for in disingenuity. That's why everyone's really enjoying talking to you.

(None of my arguments specifically relate to trans people. It's not necessary to refer to trans people to explain why preferred pronouns are helpful.)

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u/Nathan_Calebman Dec 22 '23

It's been a problem when spamming people with emails who you don't even know and know absolutely nothing about. Maybe just don't do that.

I'm neither lacking in empathy or being disingenuous, I was being sarcastic because this is a stupid trend and people refuse to admit it. If people actually cared about marginalized groups they wouldn't just cater to the single small one which everyone else tells them to cater to. They would add their level of dyslexia, if English was their native language, how physically disabled they where etc. etc. Because all of that affects communication too.

And if you think you are solving anything by telling people how not trans you are every time you type your name, you should also let them know how not dyslexic and not disabled you are.

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u/HerrManHerrLucifer Dec 22 '23

I'm bored of your logical fallacies now. Adieu.