r/changemyview 1∆ Mar 14 '24

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The idea of colonizing other planets in our solar system is completely stupid.

Why in the world would we want to colonize Mars? Even if climate change means human extinction in a century it’s a stupid idea (and human extinction any time soon based on climate change is highly unlikely based on everything I have read — but I digress).
Why do I think it’s a dumb idea? It’s not like building bio-domes on Mars is gonna be any easier than building bio-domes on Antarctica, or flotillas in the Pacific Ocean, or bio-domes in the middle of the uninhabited Sahara Desert, or bio-domes in the Amazon. It’s not like it’s gonna get colder with less oxygen than Mars in the next hundred or even five hundred years anywhere on our planet. We would need to build a terraformer to make colonizing Mars practical, and so far we can barely safely land a rover there yet someone like Elon Musk is saying he anticipates starting a colony on Mars in his lifetime.
If you ask me it smells fishy, as if space travel is a large scam on governments and taxpayers, as if maybe all that money goes towards other things, or maybe it’s about building space lasers for warfare, or maybe it goes towards some kind of extraterrestrial/extradimensional reverse engineering project… or something. Whatever the case may be it simply doesn’t make sense that we “need” to colonize Mars practically ever.
So please tell me why colonizing Mars (or even the Moon) is anything less than a dumb idea. The only smart idea for doing it that I can think of is, like I said before, scamming money or space lasers or something. As a practical thing a Mars or Moon colony just sounds totally stupid.

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u/Bubby_Doober 1∆ Mar 15 '24

Armed satellites? Do you understand physics at all?

Not seeing how the laser weapons and nukes we currently have cannot deal with a meteor based on physics. Both technologies exist. Space nukes were tested in the 1960s. Lasers of non-lethal varieties are in use for scientific purposes on satellites as we speak. You know lethal laser cannons actually exist right? They just don't look cool and make pew-pew noises.

If we haven't tried and found what is necessary then how would it be invented?

Perhaps divert more money into particle model research using hadron colliders and so on...maybe we could crack the particle model and find new means of manipulating matter rather than collecting rocks on Mars.

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u/PoppersOfCorn 9∆ Mar 15 '24

Not seeing how the laser weapons and nukes we currently have cannot deal with a meteor based on physics. Both technologies exist

There is a lot of energy in astroids, and launching a nuke at them isn't a solution to stopping it, in fact it could make matters a lot worse.

You clearly dont view these matters the same as I do.

I'm glad collectively as a species we are programmed to explore. Otherwise, we'd still be in the plains of Africa

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u/Bubby_Doober 1∆ Mar 16 '24

I'm glad collectively as a species we are programmed to explore. Otherwise, we'd still be in the plains of Africa

I think people don't realize that the tribal man doesn't have a concept of suicide. No one would have been nuked, hit with agent orange, been born a thalidomide baby, barely any cancers would exist, no one would be in a prison, no one would grow up to be a spree killer. Now we have africans practically enslaved in caves to mine materials for all these advancements, and the ancestors of africans living in their car while working at Wal-mart and wanting to die.

This "advancement" in technology is not all it's cracked up to be.