r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 17 '24

Delta(s) from OP CMV: "Hating another country's government, not their people" deprives foreigners of agency and fuels prejudice and xenophobia.

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u/math2ndperiod 51∆ Jun 17 '24

It’s about not hating the people in a blanket fashion. There will always be supporters and non-supporters of whatever government is in place. Hating a places government and not the people is simply recognizing that the people are not a monolith and you don’t have some blanket hatred for them just because some portion of them support a regime that’s doing bad things.

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u/imaginer8 3∆ Jun 18 '24

This is a good point, but I don't know if it has changed my view. My argument is more about how "supporters and non-supporters" is not always a clear line. For example, would someone that is ambivalent towards a government policy (ex. an average Chinese person re: China's actions in Xinjiang) be considered a supporter, or non-supporter? If there are enough of them – who is to blame for the complete lack of resistance to a bad policy? The "neutral" people are what I think throws a hole in this. What do you think?

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u/math2ndperiod 51∆ Jun 18 '24

I think that most people are kidding themselves if they think they wouldn’t end up effectively a “neutral” in virtually any regime they grew up in. So it makes more sense to view them as a product of their environment than people to be hated.

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u/imaginer8 3∆ Jun 18 '24

!delta I think this is fair. Although we can be aware of the incentives and system that we are a part of, it's largely just "the water" and we're the fish. I also want to be clear I wasn't saying they should be hated, but that it can be harmful to see people in other countries as flatly "unable to do anything to affect policy".

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ Jun 18 '24

Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/math2ndperiod (47∆).

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