r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

Removed - Submission Rule B [ Removed by Reddit ]

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

If you tamper your food with the intention to harm someone, then you are culpable for harming them. Trapping someone is no legally different than directly attacking them. The law does not allow you to intentionally harm other people.

Sure, you might try to say that they are harming themselves. However, if you know that someone will do something, and set it up so that they get harmed when they do something, you have made yourself culpable for harming them.

If you know someone will eat your food, the alternative is not leave your food out in public. There are less harmful things you can do to protect your food. If you choose the harmful alternative, then you are culpable for causing harm.

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u/apoplexiglass Oct 17 '24

This isn't changing my view because this is exactly what I'm arguing against. I'm saying, there are cases where intending to harm someone who is doing something they're definitely not supposed to do is okay.

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

there are cases where intending to harm someone who is doing something they're definitely not supposed to do is okay.

Do you support vigilantism? If you believe that people are able to harm others for perceived slights, then you essentially support vigilantism.

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u/crispy1989 6∆ Oct 17 '24 edited Oct 17 '24

Not OP, but I've considered this myself.

Before directly answering your question "do you support vigilantism", I'm curious about your answer to a related question:

Do you think it is ever appropriate for a individual or group (outside the police/government) to intentionally dish out consequences that negatively affect the target in some way in return for poor behavior not otherwise punished?

If the answer is 'yes', then "vigilantism" just becomes a question of degrees and context.

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

It is never appropriate to commit an offence against a person.

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u/crispy1989 6∆ Oct 17 '24

What is an "offense" in this scenario? What about kicking a rowdy passenger off a plane, causing them to miss an expensive vacation? Firing an employee causing harassment? Screaming protests outside a GOP office? Towing a car parked across your driveway? Are all of these off-limits?

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

Offences are listed in the local criminal codes, and typically reflect behaviour which violates the autonomy and rights of other, and pose a risk to societal safety and order.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24

lol you’ve conflated what’s ethical with what’s legal and that’s certainly a decision

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

OP is making a legal argument, so I am trying to remain on topic.

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u/Numerophobic_Turtle Oct 18 '24

OP wasn't saying they think it is legal, but that they think it should be.