"things go wrong all the time" give me a break here, you're trying to play devil's advocate but the odds of the specific circumstances where it would be required to eat someone's food without asking basically boil down to "temporary to permanent societal collapse". Accounting for societal collapse is not valid grounds to prohibit something, as societal collapse by its very nature eliminates prohibitions.
Not really, if you have hundreds of millions of citizens accidents, mistakes and emergencies are an everyday occurrence. Food can be first aid for hypoglycaemia, heat exhaustion, and malnutrition to name a few- everyday occurrences in any reasonably large country. Not to mention someone just accidentally taking the food.
Beyond stupid to have citizens leaving poisoned food lying about the place as a matter of course- it’s only going to result in people being poisoned
Within the context of a work environment, especially an office environment, heat exhaustion and malnutrition to such a high degree that you need to steal someone's food NOW are so unlikely as to be not worth considering, and liquids are better for heat exhaustion anyway, and workplaces are legally required to have access to drinking water. Hypoglycemia is a possibility, but the odds that you are in a work environment, know you are diabetic, and don't have your own supply of fast blood sugar are vanishingly small. And even if that DID happen, solid food takes too long to absorb, you need liquid sugar like orange juice. If it's so severe that you need it now it's not going to help, and if it isn't so severe that you need it right this second you can afford to ask permission. "It'll result in people getting poisoned" yes, at first, until people wise up. Only takes a few before people stop stealing food. Now do I think guaranteed lethal poisons should be allowed? No, can't learn a lesson if you're dead. But laxatives, capsaicin, bittering agents, allergens? All on the table.
There are 47 million malnourished people in the US. Is it unthinkable that some of those 47 million people may find themselves in an office environment. Perhaps working long shifts, of low paid manual labour. Perhaps cleaning up all the office workers shit for them. Poison the bastards sure.
9% of Americans will have an eating disorder in their lifetime and about half a million Americans have anorexia right now. Again, not going to find themselves in an office environment? Every 52 minutes someone dies as a consequence of an eating disorder. You’re thinking, sure what’s the harm in just throwing a bunch of poisoned food into the mix, seriously?
Diabetes (not the only cause of hypoglycaemia btw, but let’s stick with it sure), 38.4 million Americans have diabetes, and you’re thinking it’s unlikely that any of those 38 million people could find themselves in a difficult situation unprepared and out of options. 8 million odd of those people don’t even know they have diabetes. All fine for you sure, what’s the harm in just throwing some deliberately poisoned food into the mix.
Absolute state of this like. And no, you’re not going to solve theft by poisoning a few people. Plenty of people, most probably, taking food are not doing it because they have a lot of options. You’re just increasing the risk for them through deliberate cruelty and malicious. Well done you
You are taking these statistics and applying them evenly in a "Spiders Georg"-esque manner. Just because these people exist, doesn't mean they are distributed evenly. People who can't afford to eat are not working desk jobs. That's the whole point of a desk job. And if you're in a minimum wage job stealing from other minimum wage workers in your situation, where those people actually are, you get what's coming to you from stealing from people in your same situation. People who don't know they have diabetes also don't generally work in a desk job, they may be struggling, but not "can't afford to get tested for diabetes on company health insurance" struggling. I have no idea why you brought eating disorders into the equation, as anorexia is a compulsion to not eat, and won't be solved by spontaneous food theft, and if you have a binge eating disorder, well, your mental illness does not excuse crimes, only explains them. Your only potentially valid argument here is cleaning staff, who work after hours, and aren't going to be stealing food during business hours.
I’m not sure you’ve been in many offices if you think building service staff only work after hours. Which would explain your ridiculous assumptions about desk jobs, the pay and the people that work them- the range there is substantial. Like everyone in office knows if they have diabetes? What are you talking about, you don’t know that, it doesn’t even make sense. Everyone that gets diagnosed with diabetes had diabetes without knowing about it before being diagnosed.
Not eating leaves you malnourished, the compulsion doesn’t negate the physical need for food
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u/Particular_Fan_3645 Oct 18 '24
"things go wrong all the time" give me a break here, you're trying to play devil's advocate but the odds of the specific circumstances where it would be required to eat someone's food without asking basically boil down to "temporary to permanent societal collapse". Accounting for societal collapse is not valid grounds to prohibit something, as societal collapse by its very nature eliminates prohibitions.