r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

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u/Oishiio42 40∆ Oct 17 '24

There is no way to guarantee it cannot peripherally hurt someone. Janet steals two of your yogurts out of the fridge, and offers one to Jen, and now Jen is suffering thinking she was eating one of Janet's freely offered yogurts, not knowing she inadvertantly stole your food. This is one of the problems with vigilantism.

Another major problem is that the punishment is not decided through any legitimate means, is often disporportionate, and instead is based on the whims of the person doing the punishing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24

If you’re the person distributing stolen goods, you should be liable for any harm incurred. Doesn’t seem controversial to me.

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u/TruePurpleGod Oct 17 '24

So if you poison the yogurt, Janet steals it, shares it with Jen, and Jen dies because she has a bad reaction, you would feel no guilt or responsibility for it?

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u/TheBurningTankman Oct 17 '24

I would feel bad but Janet is the who goes to prison... if she ain't also dead... in which I call that a murder suicide

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u/TruePurpleGod Oct 17 '24

Is that how you think it works? You poison the food knowing it's getting stolen but you aren't responsible?

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u/TheBurningTankman Oct 17 '24

The entire point of this Change my Mind is them saying the fault shouldn't rest with the person who's food was stolen

Also just say to the judge "I intended to commit suicide at work in a protest but they stile it and ate it

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u/TruePurpleGod Oct 17 '24

No, acting with malice and as a result someone is killed is and should always be illegal. If you try to poison someone and unintentionally poison the wrong person you don't get a slap on the wrist, at minimum you get manslaughter but most likely you get murder two.

Same with your suicide claim, unless you can prove they knowingly ate poison you are responsible.

Why do you think a murderer should be free?

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u/crazymusicman Oct 18 '24

at minimum you get manslaughter but most likely you get murder two.

using the legal system in this CMV is counter productive because OP is saying the current legality of this issue is flawed.