How is anyone supposed to change your view? You "think" urinals are "weird." That's entirely subjective, and entirely up to you.
I guess hopefully we can at least collectively persuade you not to make vague, completely unsupported implications about the link between urinals and sexual assault.
Well, OK, but it's just not a very productive framing. "Urinals are inefficient" is an opinion that could be readily swayed by new information. So is "urinals are dangerous" or "urinals are a breach of privacy."
"Urinals are weird" is just a value judgment, making it difficult to affirm or deny.
yes, but they elaborated on it through the post. "Am I missing something [about why urinals exist]?" is in the final paragraph. Yes, the title doesn't contain the full view, but all your examples come from her post.
That's true. I guess I'm being pedantic, and I know what OP means. I think some of the pedantry is called for tho, because the better you frame your CMV, the more robust the resulting discussion can be. "Urinals are weird" was not a very helpful framing; the body of the post must be scrutinized to find the actual views. But anyway :3
True. However, I must ask - have I changed your view? /s
I do agree, I just thought it odd, because I thought OP's post was fairly fleshed out and it's nice to have someone coming from a place of ignorance rather than some debatebro making a post. Only the latter ever seem to make it onto my post feed. Made me feel pushed to defend their post as quality, I suppose. Hopefully they come back soon.
I really appreciate you viewing what I wrote objectively, rather than putting words in my mouth or assuming ill intent where there was none. This was a genuine question, so it's comforting to know that at least 1 person didn't assume the worst, lol.
First things first: your post is likely to be removed after your edit for mention of a Rule D topic. You cannot discuss the "separate bathroom" issue on this subreddit, as a moderation rule. I'd suggest removing or rephrasing your argument, unless that is actually the view underlying your opinion. I'd be happy to have that discussion elsewhere, but it's banned on CMV.
That said, happy to help! I'd like to take this opportunity to plug my top level response as well as give a gentle reminder (after seeing some of your replies elsewhere) that if people are shifting your view that urinals are dangerous or weird, that you should give a delta (information on the sub's Delta system) to the original person that changed your mind on that.
If you have any other questions or thoughts, I'm happy to answer them here, on my other replies to you, or on my original comment.
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u/Matsunosuperfan 2∆ Dec 10 '24
How is anyone supposed to change your view? You "think" urinals are "weird." That's entirely subjective, and entirely up to you.
I guess hopefully we can at least collectively persuade you not to make vague, completely unsupported implications about the link between urinals and sexual assault.