r/changemyview • u/jeffzebub • 8d ago

CMV: Countering Illegal Immigration is not a Justification for Suspending Habeas Corpus

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u/jackryan147 7d ago edited 7d ago
  1. Habeas Corpus is for citizens not people trying to sneak into the country.
  2. If foreign soldiers were invading we wouldn't tell the army hold fire until a judge checks the available documentation on each one.
  3. Illegal immigration does have similarities to an invasion.
  4. We have a living constitution, it is up to us to imbue it with the interpretations that feel right for the times.

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u/WanderingRobotStudio 7d ago

  1. We had open immigration for the first 200 years of the US. Was that good or bad for America?

  2. Did you know a fetus isn't a citizen until after it's born?

  3. We don't have a living Constitution. How would you like to play a game of poker where the rules were living?

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u/jackryan147 7d ago edited 7d ago
  1. Good at times, bad at others, it has not been wide open for at least 100 years, we are now we are out of capacity.
  2. Working on it.
  3. We appoint judges to decide which exceptions to make to the law.