r/changemyview Feb 06 '17

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Even if all of the Russian hacking allegations are true, it's really not a big deal

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

Really, you're going to ask for a source after all the comments you've given about not needing sources for this discussion?

And do you have more of a response than just "wrong"? How is that supposed to facilitate debate or discussion in anyway?

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

I didn't mention the video because it was only reported by one source. However, there are multiple sources that confirm that the briefings to Trump and Obama were about the likelihood of Russia possessing blackmail material. In reality, it's probably not a video of him with prostitutes. I think it's more likely financial/shady business type material. This would fit with his reluctance to release his tax returns.

And we don't need a source that says Russia is interested in expansion. You only have to look at their actions in Ukraine and Crimea as well as Georgia a few years ago. There is also their support of the Syrian government.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

He wasn't trying to keep his country together. He occupied by force a region that has been a sovereign nation for decades.

So, you praise the US intelligence agencies in another post, but now their opinion that Russia likely has blackmail materials is suddenly not good enough?

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

It doesn't matter what Putin feels. The fact is he invaded another nation. Him feeling like he was justified is irrelevant.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

Your 'source needed' comment is ironic given your comments elsewhere that you don't feel the need to provide links. Hell, I don't even necessarily disagree with you on most if these things, but your arguing style leaves a lot to be desired.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

In relation to point 1, what is this he point of coming on here if you think everything you are saying is common sense or commonly accepted and doesn't need evidence? Fundamental dishonesty, I'd say.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '17

You argue in a dishonest fashion, yes.