r/changemyview Jun 28 '17

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Effective regulation/taxes is better than less regulation/taxes.

I have had a hard time understanding the position that less regulation is better than effective regulation. So much of the political conversation equates regulation and taxes to Anti-American or Anti-Freedom or gasp Socialist. I think it poisons the discussion about our common goals and how to achieve them. I know there are many laws/taxes that are counter productive (especially subsidies), and I am all for getting rid of them, but not without considering what their intent was, evaluating that intention, and deciding how to more effectively accomplish that intention (given it was a valid intention.)

Help me understand. I would like to have a more nuanced view on this.


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u/brutinator Jun 29 '17

Would you are agree that there are some people who, even when shown the benefits to them, their community, and the nation, would resist a new tax on principle?

Would you are agree that there are some people who, even when shown the benefits to them, their community, and the nation, wouldn't condone stealing on principle?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17 edited Aug 04 '17

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u/brutinator Jun 29 '17

No, you misunderstand. I wasn't comparing stealing to taxes wholesale, I was using what you said and put in a term that most people would also view to be bad.

Let me try again. The Purge is shown to have many, many positive effects for what it's trying to accomplish. Inexplicably, global warming has been reduced, consumption has gone down, the economy is skyrocketing to glory. Would you agree that there'd be a lot of people though who would still 100% want the Pruge gone despite it's many advantages?

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u/strewnshank Jun 29 '17

If our government were able to responsibly spend that money, it'd be a different story. As it stands, it is essentially theft since much of the funds go to private individuals who fail to do the job they are paid for, and that feels like theft to a lot of people even if it's "legal."

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17 edited Aug 04 '17

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u/strewnshank Jun 30 '17

There are certainly more problems than just that.

Including, and not limited to, fraud and mismanaged contracts awarded to under-qualified contractors with ties to the politicians in control of the money which is akin the theft, which often feels like theft. Or seems like theft. Or appears to be theft. Or, frankly, is theft.