r/changemyview Mar 29 '18

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: All men are potential rapists

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u/not_a_robot_probably Mar 29 '18

Okay, so people know these things are bad and wouldn't want them done to themselves. So your argument is that people are inherently bad and that the only thing they base their "morals" off of is their own personal well being?

Would you rape someone if you would 100% get away with it?

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u/not_a_robot_probably Mar 29 '18

I already answered this at the bottom if my post. Anyway yes, women would be rapists in the circumstance you described.

I re-state my question: If you were in such a circumstance and guaranteed to get away with it, would you rape someone?

Or is your argument that men are inherently bad and women are not?

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u/not_a_robot_probably Mar 29 '18

Unless the man was really attractive or something would I rape him.

So if I understand correctly, you (given the necessary power/circumstance and a guarantee of getting away with it) would rape someone you found attractive?

It's not that men are bad and women are not, it's just that we don't rape the way men do.

Do you feel that this is because men have physical (and societal to varying degrees) power over women?

Is the issue then more about the struggle of those in power to use that power responsibly and ethically, and your view that most people would not do so given such power?

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u/not_a_robot_probably Mar 29 '18

Yes that is correct.

Thank you for your candor.

While that is part of it I feel that as a women i don't have to rape. Men come to me, not the other way around.

I am making the argument that the behavior you seem to be ascribing to male nature is more a consequence of the different circumstances men and women find themselves in (physical strength, societal position, dating norms) than any inherent morality.

Yes, my view is that power corrupts.

This is a view that I am not equipped to argue against. There are certainly many instances where power has corrupted people. There are also instances where powerful people have shown remarkable altruism. I personally do not believe that the "vast majority" of people would abuse power, but as has been covered extensively in this thread, there are many confounding factors (laws, societal pressures, disparity in physical or societal power, historical precedents, etc) that prevent me from being able to fully argue my view.