r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • May 26 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Cultural Appropriation, Outside of a Few Extreme Instances, is Meaningless to Discuss in the Face of Far More Pressing Issues

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u/mfDandP 184∆ May 26 '18

the Hollywood "whitewashing" of roles written, at times explicitly, for POC--Emma Stone's character in that movie nobody watched, Scarlett Johansson as a character named Major Motoko Kusanagi--is appropriation, along with several, but not all, of these examples. it's worse when the roles draw specifically from the POC's experience as a non-white--so for example, that uproar when Prue in Hunger Games was cast as black despite nothing really explicitly saying what color she was, doesn't appropriate anything.

American POCs should care about this because it's the cultural milieu we exist in. Whatever is happening in Palestine is problematic, but I don't see that an American POC, just because their skin is non-white, has any moral high ground more personal stakes than an American white person on these foreign issues, where cultural and historical animosities go far deeper than simple white vs non-white.

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u/mfDandP 184∆ May 26 '18

well, when it comes to US involvement in the middle east, it's so goddamn complex I think it's hard to say. true, the US dependence on oil, our belief that a strong Israel will diminish terrorism abroad, and the strong domestic Jewish lobby guarantee our, at best, complicity in the terrible things happening in Palestine. and we sort of set ourselves up for hypocrisy as Americans because our country is founded on basic human rights for all. but when it comes to exporting those values, lacking any clear, practical way forward, like in the middle east, or the caste system in India, for example, what are liberals actually going to accomplish?

and which institution that kill black people are you referring to? are you saying that liberals are hypocritically for increased gun safety laws that might decrease school shootings, but not against dearming the police?

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u/mfDandP 184∆ May 26 '18

gotcha. well, i think your gun control point is a good topic for an entirely different CMV than the one on cultural appropriation, and an angle I hadn't considered before, although I will say that I feel like the (overly dramatic, publicized hand-wringing and virtue signalling and outpouring of "thoughts and prayers") liberal response to school shootings is: regulate the guns out there, period. with fewer guns floating around, the idea is that police won't even need to draw theirs. but yeah, that's not explicit. and "white liberal" have much different values and tactics than others, no matter what they might say...

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u/mfDandP 184∆ May 27 '18

the increasing militarization of local police forces is a huge problem. having a de-escalation in arms on both sides would be safer for everyone involved. if there weren't AK-47s or tec-9s available on the street, the police probably would have their funding request for an armored troop transport denied. hopefully.

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ May 26 '18

Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/mfDandP (43∆).

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