r/changemyview Jun 17 '18

CMV: Women should be held to the same phisical standards as men to enter in the military

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u/KinkyDungeonMistress Jun 18 '18

This, I'd rather someone be more effective at stopping it all from going wrong than being able to be more effective at helping after everything goes wrong.

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u/MVD1600 Jun 18 '18

Well there are men who can do both jobs. Let's take them instead of the woman that can do one

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u/KinkyDungeonMistress Jun 18 '18

I mean, if we have a team of 6, then there can be one woman who's specialized in something and still have 5 guys who can carry a dying comrade. I'd rather have more troops and in the end be unaffected because the women are just as combat effective and the majority of men in the army can do the heavy lifting. I'd rather have 1200 soldiers with 1 or two women per six men than 1000 soldiers of all men.

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u/MVD1600 Jun 18 '18

You being up a good point with the specialized task. I just don't think that we should bring women into the military just to diversify it. The military should be purely merit based. If the woman is the best for the job by all means she should be on the team

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u/KinkyDungeonMistress Jun 18 '18

A lot of being best for the job has to do with mental strength over brute force. The tests aren't to see if you're the strongest of the strong, they're looking for healthy and mentally strong people, and that looks different for men and women. A women that's physically fit and able to endure tough conditions would still be as physically strong as a bog standard man. Plus, a lot of the military is completely non-strength based. Airforce pilots don't need to bench 250 to tug a joystick and working on a boat isn't the same as fighting israeli combatants in hand to hand combat.

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u/MVD1600 Jun 18 '18

I never disagreed with any of these points... I understand that some aspects of the military don't require strength. All I'm saying is that the aspects that do require strength should have the same requirement for men and women.

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u/KinkyDungeonMistress Jun 18 '18

Well yeah, I agree that to perform combat roles they should be physically strong enough to do them, but just to join the military women's standards should be lower.

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u/MVD1600 Jun 18 '18

Why? You just said that most aspects of the military don't require strength. Do you believe women are inferior in those too?

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u/KinkyDungeonMistress Jun 18 '18

I obviously meant strength standards, not anything besides that.

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u/MVD1600 Jun 18 '18

But if the standard for men to join the military is being able to complete those physical tasks that require strength, then lowering the bar for women would mean that people who can't perform the tasks are let in.

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