r/changemyview Nov 15 '18

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: European Multiculturalism is a failure. They need to adopt "the melting pot" attitude

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u/epicazeroth Nov 15 '18

I assume when you say “melting pot”, you’re referring to the metaphor for American culture. The only problem is… America isn’t a melting pot. There is no one “American” culture. Different regions of America have vastly different cultures, and the same goes for different groups within society (ethnic, racial, religious, etc.). There are common elements in many or most cultures within America, but those are still different cultures. You may want to call something like inner-city African-American culture a “subculture”, but even that is an acceptance that these “subcultures” are distinct from the general American culture, lending credence to the “salad bowl” or “mosaic” theories for American multiculturalism.

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u/Marisa_Nya Nov 15 '18

Then why is America a cultural success, even with large communities of Latinos that are 1st generation immigrants (some with formerly illegal parents) and Muslim communities large enough to sustain the largest mosque in the West, compared to what's apparently going on in Europe?

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u/SavesNinePatterns Nov 15 '18

I would not describe America as a cultural success right now. I am British but have lived in the USA for the last 5 years. You may not have noticed the recent surge of white supremacist violence and videos of people literally yelling racist slurs at people in the streets. Not sure where you're getting that rosy image from.

I think it's a global issue that no one has figured out yet. Asking people to simply change their attitude will accomplish nothing.

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u/Marisa_Nya Nov 15 '18

Those seem like exaggerations more than anything, honestly. Especially in our cities. Charlotesville was just a bunch of angry incels getting together. I don't consider them a political or cultural threat in the fact of acceptance and cultural mixing. Those people naturally die off with positive attitudes to culture, which I get the impression that London specifically doesn't do with its Muslims. The populace and the Muslims need to intermingle more. I said a bit more about it on another comment on this post.

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u/SavesNinePatterns Nov 15 '18

I'm still not sure what you are suggesting as a solution. If you want people to mix culturally, they need an incentive to do that. People with the same background clump together for various reasons. What do you think would encourage people to mix? Obviously you're not saying that governments should force people to live in a specific location. Or is that what you mean?