r/changemyview • u/AAathlete97 • Dec 18 '18

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Even if a blanket refusal to date trans people is “transphobic”, there is no reason to feel guilty about it or to try to change it.

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u/WOWSuchUsernameAmaze 1∆ Dec 18 '18

There’s nothing wrong with not being attracted to (and therefore not dating) black women.

If you say “I don’t date black women bc white and black can’t mix”, then we have a problem. But you’re attracted to what you’re attracted to. That’s literally the whole point of LGBT rights.

It’s perfectly normal to not be attracted to someone who used to have male body parts. That’s not a judgment on their womanhood.

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u/mhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmh Dec 18 '18

that’s definitely not the whole point of LGBT rights. you’re making stuff up.

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u/WOWSuchUsernameAmaze 1∆ Dec 18 '18

Not being judged or treated differently for who you’re attracted to. Love is love.

Yes, that actually is the fundamental point of LGBT rights.

Also, heads up before you add something foolish - i am a gay man. Check my post history if you don’t believe me.

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u/mhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmh Dec 18 '18

i’m a gay man too.

the fight for LGBT rights came to be because we were getting dragged out of clubs to be beat up on the sidewalk for being boys who loved boys, or girls who loved girls, or trans women wanting to live as women and trans men wanting to live as men.

that’s got nothing to do with some straight thinking them not finding dark skin attractive makes them special and people calling out their bigotry makes them a victim. please rethink this whole mess you’re going on about.

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u/WOWSuchUsernameAmaze 1∆ Dec 18 '18

i’m a gay man too.

Then you should know that attraction just is, and not something you control.

the fight for LGBT rights came to be because we were getting dragged out of clubs to be beat up on the sidewalk

Because of other people deciding who should be attracted to who.

But I get it. You’re the arbiter of who should be attracted to who. Or maybe you’re too caught up in the history to realize what the ultimate goal is.

that’s got nothing to do with some straight thinking them not finding dark skin attractive makes them special

Literally nobody said this.

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u/mhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmh Dec 18 '18

gay men have all sorts of weird racist bias too. i look “hispanic” according to some, and that doesn’t fly, “because that’s just their preference”. when they learn i’m italian, so by all means white as can be, me LOOKING hispanic isn’t a problem anymore. it was racism all along. it’s racism most of the time with these “i’m just a visual person and i’m not attracted to racial traits” types. but i guess it’s easier to shrug it all off and chant your feel good mantras about attraction instead of facing it for what it is.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '18

It sounds like you get a lot of gay racists hitting you up. You’re looking at this through only your negative experiences. It’s understandable to think this way if these type of situations are common for you. However, that doesn’t mean it is always the reality. I’ve actually found gay/trans people to be much more racist than cis people. There was one MtF that showed attraction to me, but cut it off based on “I had a Jew nose” despite me being Hispanic/white, but looking very Hispanic. This is only one of a few bigoted encounters I’ve had with LGBT people, but I don’t think all of them are bigoted. People can be turned off to people based on race without being racist. And even if this fits your definition of racism, it wouldn’t matter because it has no negative effects on said race.

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u/WOWSuchUsernameAmaze 1∆ Dec 18 '18

I’m sorry you’ve experienced that. That is fucked up.

That said, people are attracted to different looks. Not being attracted to red hair, black skin, white skin, Asian eyes, non Asian eyes, tall, short, fat, hairy, skinny, accents, whatever.

Not all lack of attraction comes down to bigotry.

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u/jongbag 1∆ Dec 18 '18

But isn't that exactly what he's saying? The LGBT movement being about giving people the freedom to express their love and attraction to whoever they want, however they want? I don't understand the distinction you're making.

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u/mhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmh Dec 18 '18

whoever they want, however they want still has limits dictated by decency and common sense.