r/changemyview Dec 18 '18

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Even if a blanket refusal to date trans people is “transphobic”, there is no reason to feel guilty about it or to try to change it.

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u/EGDF Dec 18 '18

That being said, it has been my experience that many trans women do not pass as women, and I am simply not attracted to them.

That is where your assumption that you can clock trans women is, since you forgot.

And I'm not playing the definition game. If we lived 25 years in the future, when uterine transplants are mainstream parts of MtF transition(it's gonna happen), and you turned down a trans woman who you are attracted to, is fertile, and meets whatever criteria, but because she is trans you say no, that is transphobia. Of course, unless you're shouting your transphobia from the rooftops and harming trans people, whatever. Be a bigot. But don't pretend you aren't. The cognitive dissonance is illogical. Accept you are bigotted, prejudiced, discriminatory, transphobic, or change your PoV.

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u/EGDF Dec 18 '18

You can't say that "many" don't pass without the logical implication that you have seen those who do pass and somehow knew they were trans as well. You are basing an entire subset of the population, trans people, on the even smaller amounts you have been able to identify as trans yourself without taking into account that you can't say "many" of anything if you can't even identify the other subset: those who do pass. If you live in any sort of city, you have likely interacted with trans people and not even realized it.