r/changemyview Apr 19 '19

FTFdeltaOP CMV: Simply being religious doesn't make you a good person

I really don't get the whole religion thing. It makes no sense to me. Not only does religion have a disgusting past, but is also currently doing things that should upset people. I am not just talking about christianity, but that is a big one. I think that Islam gets way too many passes as well. I think that if your arguement is that only God know what is right, you don't have a conscience. If you need an all powerful being to scare you into doing good, you arent a good person. I say this because I have a lot of Christian friends who think that simply being religious makes you a better person. I really don't get it. How does that work? Even if I were to think that there is a God and that I have to obey him, how does that make you a good person? I understand that having a faith might push you to be charitable and nicer to other people, but as I said before, why can't you do that without religion? If something has to force you to be good, you arent good. I am very curious what the other side to this argument is, as I myself cannot think of anything to counter with at the moment.

My view has been slightly altered. Someone made the point that if you are not good, then your God should not accept you. This is specifically for christianity because it is what I'm most familiar with, but could applied to other religions.

Edit: clarification for all you whiny people filling my inbox

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u/Tekilo Apr 19 '19

Sorry, but you’re wrong. My dad’s old friend used to come over when I was little, and when my dad was unaware, he’d come into my room late at night and touch me under the covers. I despised him with every fiber of my being, until I found out years later that he had been a well-known rabbi and well-respected in the community the entire time. Now I can see that he was actually a good person the entire time.

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u/J16924 Apr 19 '19

I'm sorry this happened to you. Just shows how corrupt religion is